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 Post subject: Re: Sundering Titan
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I like how half the complainers are shouting,"Nobody plays the card!" and half are shouting, "We need to play the card or we can't beat ramp!"


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My issue with Sundering Titan is this: you say it fights ramp, but how effectively? If I'm mono-colored, I scoff at your Titan and everyone else grumbles. If I'm two color ramp, I shrug it off and keep ramping, and everyone else grumbles. If I'm three color ramp, I stutter a bit but keep ramping, and other people grumble. In fact, the only time ST is an all-star is against 5c ramp decks (they've me want to run out and get a Titan of my own).

Meanwhile, the Maze, Stronghold, Canyons, and Coffers just sits there and smirks with its nonbasicness. Oh, and the controller is smirking too, because he doesn't run basics.


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If I'm running Karn or and Eldrazi, I couldn't give a crap less about what your is doing, as long as it doesn't hit me in the face 6 times.

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Sundering is NOT a good answer to ramp. That is not why I am unhappy it's banned.
Titan IS a good answer to Five Color Goodstuff.


People playing Titan as an answer to ramp are using the wrong tool. I'd be extremely unhappy if the RC banned Titan because how players are using a card.
This would be similar banning Black Myojin if drawing cards became a problem, because black Myojin is not the correct answer to excessive draw.


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Even though I'm completely in favor of the titan's banning (because I'm a RC fanboy probably), I'd still like to point out there was a recent thread for people to list cards they hate and would love to ban if they could be RC for a day. Sundering titan was about the 20th card mentioned, and it was only mentioned in a post saying "I can't believe no one has yet mentioned sundering titan". If I had 30 minutes I'd probably find that thread, it's on these forums.

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Yeah, I remember that thread. I also remember that, after everyone pointed out ST's absence, the entire thread turned into a discussion about how much they hated ST, instead of listing multiple cards they hate.


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Upon reading the first page, there was a quote that came to mind when trying to debate something/anything: "When one starts throwing insults, it shows they are already on shakey ground."

I also believe something that a lot of people are missing and that so far, like, one or two other people have mentioned is that the RC themselves said (paraphrased) "It was a long time coming and should have come earlier."

Also, I think this may be the first time I have come to a proper agreement with trevor about something. I knew it was cold here at home. :mrgreen:


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