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 Post subject: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 10:24 am 

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Typical Jhoira deck looking to combo off drawing off of historic cards.

Wincons being:
Sniping with aetherflux Reservoir
Isochron Scepter with Dramatic Reversal and Walking Ballista
Drawing out with LabMan

I'm over by 15 cards. What do you recommend I cut?

1X Academy Ruins
1X AEtherflux Reservoir
1X Altar of the Brood
1X Ancient Tomb
1X Arcane Signet
1X Back to Basics
1X Blood Moon
1X Brainstorm
1X Chain of Vapor
1X Chromatic Lantern
1X Chromatic Sphere
1X Chromatic Star
1X Chrome Mox
1X Cloud Key
1X Coalition Relic
1X Codex Shredder
1X Command Tower
1X Counterspell
1X Cyclonic Rift
1X Dack Fayden
1X Daretti, Scrap Savant
1X Dark Sphere
1X Darksteel Citadel
1X Dispel
1X Displacement Wave
1X Dramatic Reversal
1X Etherium Sculptor
1X Everflowing Chalice
1X Fabricate
1X Fellwar Stone
1X Fiery Islet
1X Flooded Strand
1X Flusterstorm
1X Foundry Inspector
1X Future Sight
1X Gamble
1X Gilded Lotus
1X Gitaxian Probe
1X Goblin Welder
1X Grafdigger's Cage
1X Great Furnace
1X Herbal Poultice
1X Hurkyl's Recall
1X Inventors' Fair
6X Island
1X Isochron Scepter
1X Izzet Signet
1X Jhoira's Familiar
1X Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain
1X Krark-Clan Ironworks
1X Laboratory Maniac
1X Lightning Greaves
1X Lotus Petal
1X Memory Jar
1X Mental Misstep
1X Metalworker
1X Mind Stone
1X Mishra's Bauble
1X Misty Rainforest
6X Mountain
1X Mox Amber
1X Muddle the Mixture
1X Mystic Remora
1X Narset, Parter of Veils
1X Negate
1X Paradoxical Outcome
1X Phyrexian Metamorph
1X Polluted Delta
1X Ponder
1X Preordain
1X Prismatic Vista
1X Pyroblast
1X Rebuild
1X Red Elemental Blast
1X Relic of Progenitus
1X Reshape
1X Retract
1X Rhystic Study
1X Scalding Tarn
1X Seat of the Synod
1X Sensei's Divining Top
1X Sol Ring
1X Spellbook
1X Spirebluff Canal
1X Steam Vents
1X Sulfur Falls
1X Swan Song
1X Talisman of Creativity
1X Tezzeret the Seeker
1X Thought Vessel
1X Tormod's Crypt
1X Torpor Orb
1X Treasonous Ogre
1X Tribute Mage
1X Trinket Mage
1X Urza's Bauble
1X Vandalblast
1X Vedalken Archmage
1X Vedalken Orrery
1X Walking Ballista
1X Welding Jar
1X Whir of Invention
1X Windfall
1X Words of Wind
1X Zuran Orb

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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 11:22 am 
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If you just want the strongest Jhoira deck, then this is a good option: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jhoira-stax-storm-cedh-1/?cb=1564924574

If you are trying to keep it more casual or if there are other considerations please elaborate. The more information you give us, the more relevant suggestions we can give you.

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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 12:23 pm 

Joined: 2011-Nov-13 11:45 am
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Inkeyes22 wrote:
If you just want the strongest Jhoira deck, then this is a good option: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jhoira-stax-storm-cedh-1/?cb=1564924574

If you are trying to keep it more casual or if there are other considerations please elaborate. The more information you give us, the more relevant suggestions we can give you.


I would like more on the competitive side, but not willing to spend more than $100/card.

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Commanders:

Uril, the Miststalker - Competitive
Balthor the Defiled - Semi-competitive
Angus Mackenzie - Semi-competitive
Azusa, Lost but Seeking - Semi-competitive
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Casual


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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 12:38 pm 

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Would you be willing to re-format the list a bit? Like sort it by card type, or card function?

I have trouble making sense of it in alphabetical order.

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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 12:50 pm 

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Kemev wrote:
Would you be willing to re-format the list a bit? Like sort it by card type, or card function?

I have trouble making sense of it in alphabetical order.


Does this help?

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jhoira- ... 1574203789

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Uril, the Miststalker - Competitive
Balthor the Defiled - Semi-competitive
Angus Mackenzie - Semi-competitive
Azusa, Lost but Seeking - Semi-competitive
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Casual


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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-19 1:36 pm 

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Yes, thanks.

2 areas I would look to chop: artifacts that don't do anything, and cards that cost 4 mana or more.

So cards like Altar of the Brood, Chromatic Star, Chromatic Sphere, Codex Shredder, Dark Sphere, Herbal Poultice, Urza's Bauble, Welding Jar, Zuran Orb. I get that you're trying to run cheap/free artifacts and hopefully wring some extra value out of them, but honestly you don't need them.

High-CMC cards to chop: Krark-Clan Ironworks, Vedalken Orrery, Treasonous Ogre, Jhoira's Familiar (probably a couple others I missed). Again, I see what you want to do here, but they're gumming up the works for not enough good reason.

Also Vedalken Archmage; this isn't a deck where you need redundancy with your commander.

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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-20 3:12 am 

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Thank you! This helps.

Is there anything you would recommend I include?

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Commanders:

Uril, the Miststalker - Competitive
Balthor the Defiled - Semi-competitive
Angus Mackenzie - Semi-competitive
Azusa, Lost but Seeking - Semi-competitive
Roon of the Hidden Realm - Casual


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 Post subject: Re: Jhoira Help
AgePosted: 2019-Nov-20 7:30 am 
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If you're looking to go competitive, I'd keep at least KCI and Treasonous Ogre; they're amazingly good at what they do in a deck where every mana matters.

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