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 Post subject: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-19 9:13 am 

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So, now that my Kynaios and Tyro deck is humming along well enough (thanks to everyone who provided assistance with that!), I'm moving on to the next project: Saskia.

I have a TON of ideas floating around in my head and keep starting down one path only to wind up chasing squirrels down other paths... ugh. Anyway, I figured I might as well recruit some help chasing those squirrels.

I'll throw out some ideas, and what I'm looking for is help expanding on those ideas. Figuring out which ones to use and how to fit them all into one deck will be my problem. I just want to explore these tangents, see what we can come up with...

So, the first thing is, I see Saskia and I immediately think of Hydra Omnivore. That in turn makes me think of the Myriad creatures. Which leads me to Blade of Selves. I know I'm not the only person to think putting Blade of Selves on Om-nom Hydra would be cool, but I digress. Anyway, this micro-theme is "punching people so hard other people feel it" and I can't think of anything beyond these few creatures that really fit the theme... but do let me know if I've overlooked anything!

Next up, since I am on the Blade of Selves plan, it seems obvious I want some equipment tutors. I don't need any help in this category. Stoneforge, Stonehewere, Godo, etc. We're good here. Where I need help is the equipment package. See, I know from experience that if I start including GOOD equipment like Swords, Jitte, etc, I'm almost never going to actually fetch up Blade of Selves. It'll just be correct to get SoFI or SoFF like 99% of the time, cause they're so friggin' powerful.

So what I want is a smattering of equipment that are good enough to be worth running, but not so good they'll utterly upstage Blade of Selves and make it virtually irrelevant. Blade of Selves should be the star of the show, not a walk-on extra.

So far I've got: Swiftfoot Boots, Skullclamp, Loxodon Warhammer and Conqueror's Flail (three of which were already in the precon anyway). Considering Mask of Memory. Any other middle-of-the-road equipment that I should be considering? Godsend maybe? Dunno...

Speaking of Conqueror's Flail, I also threw in a Knight of New Alara because giving Saksia +4/+4 seems pretty good. Going down this road, I of course began trying to prioritize multicolored creatures so make the Knight worthwhile.

While looking for multicolored guys to run, I came across Charnelhoard Wurm and realized something cool: he does not require COMBAT damage to trigger! This means that with Saskia out, any time the Wurm connect, you get to Regrowth twice. Well that sent me looking for other cool creatures with damage triggers that do NOT require combat damage... and I didn't find much. Basically, lifelink. So I threw in a Serra Ascendant, cause duh. But I just want to cover my ass here - am I missing some sweet tech here, or was Charnelhoard a total fluke?

Other ideas I had include focusing on combat-related keywords. Think Exalted, Battalion, Battle Cry, Melee, etc. But most of these came up pretty short. The only two Exalted cards I would seriously consider (lacking Blue) were Qasali Pridemage and Sublime Archangel. The only Battlecry card I would consider was Hero of Bladehold, but since I'm ditching the tokens plan that janked up the precon, that seems meh. Battalion had a few goodies, but the Lightning Helix Angel and maybe the Battlefield Medic are the only ones I can get excited about.

Looking for card draw solutions, I came up with the good ol' Elemental Bond/Garruk's Packleader combo, which is my go-to when I have a very creature-centric deck like this, and it so happens many of the creatures I'd want have 3+ power. Also considering Grenzo, Havoc Raiser as another card advantage machine. But I'm looking for more ideas for draw/card advantage.

And, going back to Blade of Selves, I'm looking for good creatures to equip. I mean, anything with an ETBF trigger or a Combat Damage trigger should work, right? But there are SO MANY. I just get overwhelmed. Aside from, again, Charnelhoard Wurm which plays well with both Blade and Saskia as well as Knight of New Alara, I have Balefire Dragon, Eternal Witness, Flametongue Kavu, Sun Titan and Grave Titan. Oh, probably Wood Elves and Solemn in a pinch, I guess. Most of those are kind of boring/obvious, though. What COOL and FUN stuff can I do with Blade? Extra points if your ideas synergize or tie into other themes I've already mentioned.

Oh, will probably include Resto Angel as a way to reset Saskia without killing her and at instant-speed.

And finally, Indestructible effects are good here. Bastion Protector, Nahiri's Machinations, Ready//Willing and maybe Dauntless Escort are all in the stack of hopefuls. Boros Charm is already in the precon. What else am I missing here?

Thanks in advance!

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-19 11:57 am 
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Here's a list of creatures which have damage triggers in these colors:

I left out Poison creatures, because those seem pretty obvious.

Also, something something damage doublers?

For Blade of Selves, I think my favorite is Wayfaring Temple. You can make tokens of tokens that don't leave due to how Blade of Selves is worded and that the exile trigger and populate triggers go on the stack at the same time.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-19 12:19 pm 

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Hero of Bladehold is more than acceptable as just aggro. The tokens are just addons, you don't need support.

Orzhov Charm is a fine removal card and can reset Saskia, although not instantly and for 6 total (which is *fine* after the original player dies or considering it can save her from dying and commander tax).

Malignus can connect the chosen player and one shot them.

If you like damage doublers, they also enable Malignus to one shot a player.

With two damage doublers on the field, a 2/x can one shot a player! Scary right?

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-19 2:06 pm 

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Malignus is cool, so I'll consider that one.

Soltari Visionary seems exceptionally good! That one's a must. But more than that, it brings up a keyword I'd completely overlooked: Shadow. I'm going to have to look into that a bit more as well...

As for damage doublers, the only one I'm running for now is Gisela. In general, I find most of them to be kinda boring.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-19 2:24 pm 

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Yea, they're boring, but interesting with Saskias ability. I haven't tried any myself, but I may since my deck is not going to work competitively without combos and I'm considering making it more like a 75% kind of thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-20 8:37 am 

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Alright, here's a theoretical list:

Saskia the Unyielding

Serra Ascendant
Stoneforge Mystic
Battlefield Medic
Bastion Protector
Soltari Champion
Soltari Visionary
Sublime Archangel
Herald of the Host
Stonehewer Giant
Sun Titan
Banshee of the Dread Choir
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Flametongue Kavu
Warchief Giant
Godo, Bandit Warlord
Balefire Dragon
Sakura Tribe Elder
Wood Elves
Eternal Witness
Garruk's Packleader
Thunderfoot Baloth
Hydra Omnivore
Caller of the Pack
Stonehoof Cheiftan
Qasali Pridemage
Kamal, Consul of Allocation
Tymna the Weaver
Firemane Avenger
Iroas, God of Victory
Knight of New Alara
Madrush Cyclops
Ankleshanker
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Charnelhoard Wurm
Solemn Simulacrum

Swords to Plowshares
Nahiri's Machinations
Duelist's Heritage
Wrath of God
Farseek
Cultivate
Elemental Bond
Shamanic Revelation
Tooth and Nail
Hull Breach
Boros Charm
Abzan Charm
Utter End
Sylvan Reclamation
Ready//Willing
Sol Ring
Gruul Signet
Selesnya Signet
Orzhov Signet
Mask of Memory
Skullclamp
Blade of Selves
Conqueror's Flail
Hero's Blade
Swiftfoot Boots
Tenza, Godo's Maul
Loxodon Warhammer


This is 63 cards, leaving room for 37 lands. With I think 9 pieces of ramp/fixing, that should be enough.

Didn't have room for Malignus, and I also wanted to throw in a few auras like Shield of the Oversoul and Scourge of the Nobilis, but didn't have room for that either.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-20 9:44 am 
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thaumaturge wrote:
Didn't have room for Malignus, and I also wanted to throw in a few auras like Shield of the Oversoul and Scourge of the Nobilis, but didn't have room for that either.

I keep trying to find room for those two enchantments as well, but I keep failing.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-21 1:52 am 

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Forgot a couple of essential utility cards in Magus of the Wheel and Unburial Rites. I'm pretty insistent on those being in there as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-21 5:05 am 
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Quote:

FTFY


Are there enough clerics for Battlefield Medic? Would Samite Pilgrim Possibly be better?
Should you find a spot for Dolmen Gate?
Did you consider Sword of the Animist, Explorer's Scope or Trailblazer's Boots?

That's all for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Saskia; Looking for Input...
AgePosted: 2016-Dec-21 8:14 am 

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Sorry, Frontline Medic was the card I was trying to convey, but had a brain fart.

Dolmen Gate is an effect I'd love but dedicating a card slot solely to it doesn't seem quite worth it. Iroas is basically a Dolmen Gate on 'roids.

Sword of the Animist was definitely up for consideration but I didn't feel like I had a high enough basic count to make it truly worthwhile. I'm just not a fan of Explorer's Scope. Trailblazer Boots, on the other hand, is probably worth considering. I always forget about that card. .

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