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 Post subject: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 1:17 am 
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Hey all. As you probably all know, Thopter Foundry and Sword of the Meek make a pretty good combo.

What I want to know is... can you reasonably play Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek? I really like Thopter Foundry, and have a deck that has gravitated more and more to artifact creature tokens, and would like to run this card, only... it seems really bad without Sword of the Meek.

Ideas?

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 1:45 am 

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I've seen it done. Was decent. Mildly annoying at times, irrelevant at others. I'd say the biggest factors are how high you value a sac outlet and/or sac fodder.

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 3:35 am 

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Sinis wrote:
can you reasonably play Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek?
Why would you want to do this? Foundry is fine if you are short on other artifact sac outlets or gaining life in increments of 1 is somehow interesting to your artifact deck. It's not generically "good" though.

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 3:43 am 
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While I mentioned Sword of the Meek in the list I posted for the Breya thread, I have never actually included it in any list I have with Thopter Foundry. I prefer using Foundry just as a sac outlet rather than a token swarm creator. I think it does just fine providing small, incremental value over time rather than painting a target on your back with the sword.

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 6:20 am 
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The obvious solution to me is things that you want to die...
Mycosynth Wellspring
Ichor Wellspring
Spine of Ish Sah (use Sculpting Steel and/or Phyrexian Metamorph for even more lols)
Salvaging Station to repeatedly bring back small things you want to sac (Use with Myr Moonvessel and the foundry for infinite thopters)
Other creatures with the "dies add colorless to mana pool" ability
Myr Retriever & Junk Diver

EDIT: And make sure you have Liquimetal Coating, so you can sac whatever you want... that card is freaking insane in artifact synergy decks.

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 7:16 am 

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Sid the Chicken wrote:
Salvaging Station to repeatedly bring back small things you want to sac (Use with Myr Moonvessel and the foundry for infinite thopters)
I recommend a closer reading of Salvaging Station's first ability.

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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 7:13 pm 

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I don't really mind it. Someone points removal at something of yours (your nontoken artifact, anyway) and you get a a life a 1/1.

Seems like people might be on edge around you having half of the combo though? Guess people know you will believe you, and others perhaps after one game, so not really a big deal.

I'm working with just a couple slots i'm undecided on for Breya, and it is not a contestant. I do love it though, just feel like i get more out of other cards and i'm not playing any combo.


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 Post subject: Re: Thopter Foundry without Sword of the Meek
AgePosted: 2016-Oct-27 11:20 pm 
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crokaycete wrote:
Sid the Chicken wrote:
Salvaging Station to repeatedly bring back small things you want to sac (Use with Myr Moonvessel and the foundry for infinite thopters)
I recommend a closer reading of Salvaging Station's first ability.

:facepalm: Yeah, so that wouldn't be a thing. Can still sac a Sol Ring or whatever and then bring it back.

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