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 Post subject: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 4:01 am 
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I was thinking of a deck idea that gives your opponents lots of little creatures. Then, you kill them all and profit from the carnage :)

I'm not sure there's enough cards that give creatures tokens but I thought I'd through the idea out for suggestions.

Gives Creatures:
Tombstone Stairwell - lots of tokens that go away. This will be an all-star
Infernal Genesis - more mass tokens
Akroan Horse
Forbidden Orchard
Hunted Dragon
Hunted Horror - 3/3 is getting a bit big
Hunted Lammasu - 1 4/4 may not be good enough
Hunted Phantasm
Hunted Troll
Phantasmal Sphere - seems weak
Phelddagrif
Questing Phelddagrif
Varchild's War-Riders
Pharika, God of Affliction
Mogg Infestation

Profits from giving creatures:
Blood Seeker
Suture Priest

Profits from death:
Black Market
Blade of the Bloodchief
Burning Sands -no
Death Frenzy
Dingus Staff
Dross Harvester
Goblin Sharpshooter
Inheritance
Moonlit Wake
Shriveling Rot
Thornbite Staff
Vicious Shadows -super mean
Sangromancer
Toshiro Umezawa
Blood Artist
Massacre Wurm
Grim Feast
Falkenrath Noble
Deathbringer Thoctar
Twilight Drover
Deathgreeter
Hissing Iguanar
Murder of Crows
Reaper of the Wilds

Profit:
Repercussion
Incite Rebellion


There are a number of creatures that get +1/+1 but those are boring

Am I missing some token makers? Any good (I know there are lots) cards that profit from creatures dying?

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 4:11 am 

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Massacre Wurm seems good and possibly game ending


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 4:14 am 
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Of course, it was the first to come to mind when I started thinking about it.

Added :)

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 4:35 am 

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Grim Feast

I play it in my 5 color Zombie deck with Stairwell!


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:08 am 
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Added!

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:08 am 

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I think repercussion is a strong one. Then you can do stuff like pestilence and blasphemous act. But you'd want to run some kind of sac outlet for yourself. Which you probably want anyway.

In the same vein : incite rebellion. Hurts the guy with the most tokens you've given him.

I feel like there's a few other cards that more broadly make having creatures a liability, in the same way repercussion does. But, I can't think of them.

Mogg Infestation is a good token producer.

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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:09 am 
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oh good stuff!

Totally forgot about Repercussion!! Love it!

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:09 am 
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You missed Falkenrath Noble.

Deathbringer Thoctar? A lot of the tokens you're giving are 1/1... this would give you a convenient way to make them die en masse, as well as a potential big dude.

Twilight Drover doesn't limit itself to your tokens.

Deathgreeter?

Hissing Iguanar?

Kresh the Bloodbraided?

Murder of Crows?

Reaper of the Wilds?

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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:13 am 

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This is looking like a rare Jund deck I might actually want to play. :)

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Kothophed (mono black control, ETB abuse)
Teferi, Temporal Archmage (blue pillowfort superfriends)
Glint-Eye Nephilim (combat tricks, card draw, & creature pump)
Oloro Upkeep Tribal (enchantment-based control)
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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:20 am 

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OOh man, You totally forgot :

craw giant + tempting licid // armed / dangerous.

Also, in the 3-card-weak-combo department:

righteous cause + siren's call // avatar of slaughter.

EDIT: holy crap, there's actually a card called Blood Reckoning, which seems way better and stays in the Jund color wedge.

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Kothophed (mono black control, ETB abuse)
Teferi, Temporal Archmage (blue pillowfort superfriends)
Glint-Eye Nephilim (combat tricks, card draw, & creature pump)
Oloro Upkeep Tribal (enchantment-based control)
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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:28 am 
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I like 'em all! Kresh is just a beater but may make for a good leader.

Jund may work. Lose two Hunted creatures and the two Phelddagrifs but there may still be enough.

Could add Glissa the Traitor too

ooo, Blood Reckoning would be a good add.

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 5:34 am 
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As dying is basically the theme of my Glissa deck, I've a pretty list of cards in B/G and colorless. You already got a lot of those, but let's see:

"Whenever your creature dies..."
Grave Betrayal
Lim-Dûl the Necromancer
Patron of the Nezumi
It That Betrays
Overseer of the Damned
Glissa, the traitor obviously

"Whenever a creature dies"
Mimic Vat
Scythe of the Wretched
Ogre Slumlord
Bitter Ordeal
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled
Vengeful Dead only with zombies, but it's the classic card to go with Stairwell. Together with Shepherd of Rot.

"Whenever my creature dies..."
Butcher of Malakir
Grave pact
Dark Prophecy
Pawn of Ulamog
Nether traitor
Savra, queen of the Golgari
Golgari Germination
Dictate of Erebos
Lightning Coils (my current wincon)
Flesh Carver OK, maybe that's pushing it...

I used Tombstone Stairwell and Infernal Genesis in Glissa for a while, that can get pretty crazy. I also had a VWR deck with Dingus Staff. I still have it, but it sucks since Brand got nerved into oblivion. I found that Tainted AEther is absurd, especially with Leyline of singularity around. But I assume you don't want to get punched in the face... Sharpshooter is also very good in that deck. You should try something with Last Laugh.

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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 6:55 am 

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I was thinking about something like this with Karona at the helm. If you go that direction you might want to put some stuff in there to direct attacks away from yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-18 2:32 pm 
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More token makers (not just Jund):
Alliance of Arms
Benevolent Offering
Tempt with Reflections
Curse of Shallow Graves
Death by Dragons
Tempt with Vengeance
Sylvan Offering
Nantuko Shrine
Sarkhan the Mad
Acorn Catapult

Shenanigans:
Assault Suit with things like Nacatl War-Pride

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 Post subject: Re: Death for Profit
AgePosted: 2015-Jun-19 12:45 am 
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Curse of Shallow Graves is great idea! I forgot about the Tempts as well. Good call.

Nantuko Shrine is a must and, of course, Acorn Catapult! I think there's enough for a deck here! I'm going to see what I can do.

Jund with Kresh is a possibility
This may be a job for Dune-Brood Nephilim
5 color Karona is a good idea too

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Glissa, the Traitor -> Voltron
Mayael the Anima -> Flopping Fatties
Phenax, God of Deception -> Grave Rats
Starke of Rath -> Wrath of Starke: MRC

Proving Grounds: Drawmia-maro, Titania When Lands Attack, Tromokratis Read it Again, Kaalia's Klerics, Hordes of Tribes.


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