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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-03 4:09 pm 
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Gath Immortal wrote:
The depressing answer to this one is clearly scarab god, preferably with throne of the god pharoah in play.

If you're going to answer, you need to provide the next card.

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-04 3:53 pm 
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Sid the Chicken wrote:
Gath Immortal wrote:
The depressing answer to this one is clearly scarab god, preferably with throne of the god pharoah in play.

If you're going to answer, you need to provide the next card.

Screw it - he's probably not coming back, picking it myself;

Goatnapper.

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-05 1:33 am 
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Sid the Chicken wrote:


Only thing I can see this in is Yasova Dragonclaw Steal n' Sac. You would need to add things like Blades of Velis Vel, Artificial Evolution or Amoeboid Changeling. It is a lot of hoops to jump throught just to get a Threaten with a 2/2 attached to it.

Have we already talked about Humble Defector?

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
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Inkeyes22 wrote:
Sid the Chicken wrote:

Have we already talked about Humble Defector?


Don't know, but I guess is good with Zedruu the Greathearted if you can talk to one opponnt to switch each turn is great, if he betrays you then, you get an extra card at least


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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-05 6:31 am 
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alexev wrote:
Inkeyes22 wrote:
Sid the Chicken wrote:

Have we already talked about Humble Defector?


Don't know, but I guess is good with Zedruu the Greathearted if you can talk to one opponnt to switch each turn is great, if he betrays you then, you get an extra card at least

You need to provide the next card please.

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
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The next card is

Wild mongrel is one of my favourite cards because he was the "hero" of my first extended deck UG Madness


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AgePosted: 2018-Dec-07 12:50 am 
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alexev wrote:
The next card is

Wild mongrel is one of my favourite cards because he was the "hero" of my first extended deck UG Madness

Use him with The Gitrog Monster.

I was looking at the possible commander options plus how he actually gets used, and it turns out he's sorta popular with Gitrog decks. Thinking about why, it turns into this: he's one of only a few creatures in Golgari colors (beside Noose Constrictor and Skirge Familiar) that let you discard indefinitely for free and do something useful and stackable as a result.

If you have Gitrog out then when you discard a land card, you draw two new cards. If one or both of them are lands, you can discard those too, drawing 2-4 new cards, repeat. This can let you dump some excess lands, make your hound suddenly quite large for removal and/or player damage, and give you some sudden card draw and filtering reminiscent of Skullclamp.

Majestic Myriarch

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
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My first thought would be Atraxa keyword soup, although in the end I'm going to have to pick Bruse Tarl/Tana, as the pair of them gives the only really relevant keywords, tends to have a lot of creatures out, and IIRC Tana's first strike combat trigger should make the Myriarch bigger during its second swing.

Just bought one, so wondering the best deck for our Standard-wrecking friend Carnage Tyrant.

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-10 1:11 pm 
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Uktabi_Kong wrote:
Just bought one, so wondering the best deck for our Standard-wrecking friend Carnage Tyrant.

Big generic beater is big and generic. Selvala, Heart of the Wild likes big beasts, but, it doesn't have an aberrantly favourable power to mana cost that the deck is usually interested in.

The easy answer is Xenagos, God of Revels. A different answer is Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle. Why Arixmethes? Because this Arixmethes curves into this guy without the need for a fifth land, and Carnage Tyrant admits few answers while you're waking up Arixmethes.

How about Midnight Oil?

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-11 6:50 am 

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Sinis wrote:

How about Midnight Oil?


I have two candidates for this one but the main is this

Atraxa, praetors voice in a build full proliferate, wth cards like Contagion clasp and his big brother Contagion engine and also use Reliquary tower (but playing it after the oil to override the effect)

If you cannot abuse the draw then is not worth it unless you can give it to other player (I have suggested a comander for that), thats why I think a full prolif atraxa is the best

The next card is War tax


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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-11 10:03 am 
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alexev wrote:
The next card is War tax
An awkward version of Propaganda. It's easily the fourth best version of the effect on an enchantment I can come up with off the top of my head (granted, most other Ghostly Prison effects I can think of are white). So really, the question is in what deck do you want more copies of Propaganda so badly that you're willing to burn 3 mana per opponent per turn cycle to get it?

Well... The first thing to clarify is that it's not quite that bad. In any given turn cycle, you can usually expect to be getting attacked by a single player. If you can predict where attacks come from, you can use War Tax efficiently. Though every wrong prediction will cost you life or mana. You could also reduce the overall opportunity cost by running cards like Seedborn Muse and Alchemist's Refuge.

If you want to play the pillowfortiest of pillowfort decks, then:
A: I hope you realise hiding is a sign of weakness and taxes don't make effective shields.
B: I'm prioritizing your head enough to make up for the discouragement the rest of the table feels twicefold.
C: Arcades, the Strategist likes to put up lots of actual walls so he would fit the style.
D: Tuvasa the Sunlit might work a little better for you, since Tuvasa synergizes with all these better enchantments you're playing to justify War Tax' inclusion.
E: Regardless of commander, you probably want to be Bant for maximum pillowfortage and green to give you the mana for War Tax.

I tire of this talk of not attacking. How about Skin Invasion//Skin Shedder?

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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-12 5:45 pm 
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Ski Gloves wrote:
I tire of this talk of not attacking. How about Skin Invasion//Skin Shedder?

Dorky removal is dorky. Still, I have a soft spot for this card, and had plans to include it in my Innistrad-themed cube (which is a defunct project, but still).

My bet would be O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami. You want to be attacked. You want it so bad, you might play this card, and eventually get a 3/4 in the bargain.

Have we talked about Nissa, Steward of Elements?

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I like her as "valuetown" kind of card, I mean, wich UG deck would want to scry 2 every turn?

Because of his 0 ability I guess one of the best candidates to abuse her would be a melfork deck with Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca


My next card is Sarkhan Unbroken (If the RC ever allows a PW as a commander I would pick this for a deck)


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 Post subject: Re: Forum Game: I Need A Hero!
AgePosted: 2018-Dec-14 8:22 am 
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alexev wrote:
I like her as "valuetown" kind of card, I mean, wich UG deck would want to scry 2 every turn?

Because of his 0 ability I guess one of the best candidates to abuse her would be a melfork deck with Kumena, Tyrant of Orazca


My next card is Sarkhan Unbroken (If the RC ever allows a PW as a commander I would pick this for a deck)


I am in the "every PW should be legal" camp, but assuming we are not playing with that type of group... Intet, the Dreamer or one of the 5c Dragons would make the most sense, as his -2 would be useful to protect him, but a 4/4 isn't that big compared to what a lot hits the table in EDH. His Ultimate would be garbage in anything that didn't have at least 7-10 dragons, so you are likely going to want some type of focus on dragons at the very least.

Where would you use Lava Runner?

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Sinis wrote:
Have we talked about Nissa, Steward of Elements?
Considering she was my Brawl commander before rotation, I would like to add my say. I played Nissa in an explore tribal deck, which is now being led by Tatyova. Explore just isn't powerful or numerous enough to work in commander (due to it being legacy), but for Brawl it's alright (and would be much better if I just bit the bullet and played black). The synergy between Nissa and explore, combined with her flexible cost, made her work really well as a commander, both were able to take advantage of the other in different ways, depending on how I sequenced them.

Nissa would probably fit in a Simic deck that cares about the top card, but Arixmethes isn't a terribly synergistic commander for that and 2018's premier "the top card matters" commander isn't green. Rashmi, Eternities Crafter is a decent runner up though and she doesn't mind the top card being an X spell. Throw in Future Sight, Reason // Believe, a smattering of explore, etc. and you'd probably have an interesting deck.

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Where would you use Lava Runner?
That's hmm. I gotta be honest, that's not a terribly effective card. The trigger is very unique, but a 2/2 haste for 3 really doesn't pose enough of a threat to justify sacrificing a land to remove it. Worse still, any time you target it you have to sacrifice a land, which means buffing it up to valid threat status defeats the purpose of making it one. So, in a way, you could think of it as a 2/2 haste shroud for 3 since noone wants to target it.

The best I can think of is that you could play it in a deck of redirects, along with other Thorn Lieutenant-like creatures and Kira, Great Glass-Spinner. Good thing Leovold's banned and not red. I've no idea who might be the right commander for such a deck, but you want blue for redirects and green for the shroud-like effects, so I guess you play Surrak Dragonclaw and stop those pesky counterspells from avoiding the issue (and have a commander to hold up with your redirects)?

Alternatively, it goes right into the unofficial Akki Lavarunner volcano tribal deck. But that's, uh, a really, really bad deck.

Speaking of the top of the deck, have we discussed Experimental Frenzy?

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