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 Post subject: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 3:30 pm 

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Hey guys, I am running a Vorosh, the Hunter deck that focuses on Infect and Proliferate. It recently came to arguement about how many poison counters were required to lose an EDH game since the players start out with 40 life instead of 20. Can you clarify this for me? I appreciate your taking time to answer my question.

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 3:36 pm 

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I can't find a rule where it would be different from the ordinary game. So it's still 10.


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AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 4:11 pm 

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Officially its ten, but I've heard of house rules where they upped it to 20.


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AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 4:13 pm 

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If someone tried to up my poison counters, I'd say "up yours"

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 4:59 pm 

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Iron wrote:
Officially its ten, but I've heard of house rules where they upped it to 20.


I've heard of house rules that lands can't be destroyed, non-legends can be generals, countermagic is limited to 2 per deck, combo's are banned or you can't do things that are unfair, unfun or get on peoples nerves.

In EDH you die when you can't draw a card you have to, run out of life, recieve 21 damage from a single general, get 10 poison counters or due to other effects such as Felidar Sovereign.

With the exception of general damage EDH doesn't do anything different in this respect from "normal Magic"

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-18 6:42 pm 

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24x30cl wrote:
Iron wrote:
Officially its ten, but I've heard of house rules where they upped it to 20.


I've heard of house rules that lands can't be destroyed, non-legends can be generals, countermagic is limited to 2 per deck, combo's are banned or you can't do things that are unfair, unfun or get on peoples nerves.

In EDH you die when you can't draw a card you have to, run out of life, recieve 21 damage from a single general, get 10 poison counters or due to other effects such as Felidar Sovereign.

With the exception of general damage EDH doesn't do anything different in this respect from "normal Magic"


Let me clarify. League play house rules.


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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-19 7:24 am 
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FinalLogic wrote:
If someone tried to up my poison counters, I'd say "up yours"

The scenario:

Dude: Alright after I equip the Grafted Exoskeleton, I enter combat and swing with Trygon Predator. You get 4 more poison counters putting you to 9 total.
Guy: This blows. We should up the poison requirement to 20 counters.
Dude: *Reveals Steady Progress* Up yours.
Guy: @#^&

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-20 2:28 pm 
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TheDoctor wrote:
FinalLogic wrote:
If someone tried to up my poison counters, I'd say "up yours"

The scenario:

Dude: Alright after I equip the Grafted Exoskeleton, I enter combat and swing with Trygon Predator. You get 4 more poison counters putting you to 9 total.
Guy: This blows. We should up the poison requirement to 20 counters.
Dude: *Reveals Steady Progress* Up yours.
Guy: @#^&


I wish these forums had a "like" button like Facebook. If they didn't change things for Serra Ascendant, Lifecat, Divinity of Pride, etc. it won't be changed for poison.

My skittles will be attacking you by turn 3 at the latest. Enjoy ^_^

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-20 6:20 pm 

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Rishana wrote:
I wish these forums had a "like" button like Facebook.


I wish anything that looks like facebook dies a death more horrible than one of a sexual predator in a US jail.*

Rishana wrote:
My skittles will be attacking you by turn 3 at the latest. Enjoy ^_^


Bring it :wink:


*that might be a little extreme, but i really dislike facebook. Lets keep these forums oldschool Web 1.0

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-23 12:27 pm 
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Turn 3 Skittles is why I run instant cheap white removal. Specifically Condemn does nice things to turn 3 Skittles. = )

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-26 4:03 pm 

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[quote="24x30cl"][quote="Rishana"]I wish these forums had a "like" button like Facebook.[/quote]

I wish anything that looks like facebook dies a death more horrible than one of a sexual predator in a US jail.*

[quote="Rishana"]My skittles will be attacking you by turn 3 at the latest. Enjoy ^_^[/quote]

Bring it :wink:


*that might be a little extreme, but i really dislike facebook. Lets keep these forums oldschool Web 1.0[/quote]

I think you took it easy, but I can not think of a better way to put it.

On topic, changing base rules like that makes the format in my opinion harder to proliferate, seeing as people then have MORE rules differences to learn.


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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-27 7:27 am 
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Urtho wrote:
On topic, changing base rules like that makes the format in my opinion harder to proliferate, seeing as people then have MORE rules differences to learn.


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Proliferate.

P.S. Vorosh seems like a nice Infect-based commander, yours is the second such deck I've heard of this week. May have to try it out if Skittles: Taste the Poison Rainbow gets boring. Grafted Exoskeleton seems like some of good in that deck.
P.P.S. Poison to stay at 10 counters for EDH IMO. If the lack of errata is good enough for WinCat and Test of Endurance it's good enough for Poison, dammit.

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-27 11:21 am 
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Seriously a turn 1 Serra Ascendant is just as broken... Unless the errata is all cards wide then fuck it.

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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-27 11:25 am 

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Rishana wrote:
Seriously a turn 1 Serra Ascendant is just as broken... Unless the errata is all cards wide then fuck it.


Except poison is a rule, not a card.

I'm not advocating it at this time, but a poison change would be uber-easy to implement.


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 Post subject: Re: Poisoning
AgePosted: 2011-Jan-31 3:41 am 

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herodotusjr wrote:
Urtho wrote:
May have to try it out if Skittles: Taste the Poison Rainbow gets boring.

You did it wrong.


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Fear the rainbow

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