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 Post subject: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-09 10:15 pm 
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So, now that Generals operate out of the Command Zone, is it now possible to Mindslaver someone, play their general, and then Path to Exile that general and, since you're controlling the turn and making decisions, choose to have the general go to exile where it can very likely never be played again that game by that player? Please tell me that the owner of the general still retains the ability to move it to the Command Zone...

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-09 10:46 pm 

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If that's the least obnoxious thing that happens to you when you get Mindslavered, consider yourself lucky.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 10:50 am 
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dbaker wrote:
If that's the least obnoxious thing that happens to you when you get Mindslavered, consider yourself lucky.

Agreed.

To answer the question:
"All decisions" means "all decisions." That includes whether to use optional replacement effects, so the General can be exiled for good.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 12:44 pm 
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dbaker wrote:
If that's the least obnoxious thing that happens to you when you get Mindslavered, consider yourself lucky.


I think you mean "most" but I see what you're getting at. However, removing a key part of the format (general) for good is kind of lame. At least under the old rules this wasn't possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 2:21 pm 
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chances are if they are playing white, you mindslaver them and path their general, they'll catch on and pack some pull from eternity, if they're in green they have riftsweeper, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 3:05 pm 
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Still lame and unfun.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 5:13 pm 
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And incredibly unlikely? If a player is any good at all he/she will spend the Path on something before the Slaver turn begins, so he/she would either need to be tapped out or the spell would need to be topdecked.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 5:45 pm 
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Cervid wrote:
At least under the old rules this wasn't possible.

Only for decks playing creature recursion. If a Tibor and Lumia deck, for example, were Mindslaver'd and cast 3 red spells, their General would be just as gone pre-Command Zone as it is now. Since creature recursion is so obnoxiously overplayed right now, I'm not at all upset by this change.


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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-10 8:58 pm 
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paperwarrior wrote:
And incredibly unlikely? If a player is any good at all he/she will spend the Path on something before the Slaver turn begins, so he/she would either need to be tapped out or the spell would need to be topdecked.


Except it doesn't matter who has the exile effect.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-11 1:27 am 
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Well ... just don't get Mindslavered.
Haha, easier than it sounds, I know.
Play your politics right, or just counter/redirect it.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-11 7:19 pm 

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Hallowed Burial does the same against some decks, most decks have a way for their General to be "lost"


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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-12 6:52 pm 

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Cervid wrote:
Still lame and unfun.


Isn't that the flavor text on Mindslaver?


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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-13 4:16 am 
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ludd_gang wrote:
Cervid wrote:
Still lame and unfun.


Isn't that the flavor text on Mindslaver?


no, that's the rulestext on mindslaver.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-13 9:10 am 
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Ymirsson wrote:
ludd_gang wrote:
Cervid wrote:
Still lame and unfun.


Isn't that the flavor text on Mindslaver?


no, that's the rulestext on mindslaver.


yet again, i lol'd at ymirsson's witty antics.

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 Post subject: Re: Mindslaver + General + Exile Effects
AgePosted: 2009-Oct-13 10:48 am 
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overgeneral_thoril wrote:

yet again, i lol'd at ymirsson's witty antics.


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