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 Post subject: [Deck] Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
AgePosted: 2011-Mar-31 7:05 am 
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Yes, it's another version of Ashling, i saw the precedent topics with various percent of Lands/Spell.. i came up with this 50/50 Voltron deck with other interesting engines.. Check this out

V. 1.0
// Commander
1 [LRW] Ashling the Pilgrim

// Lands 50 - A very easy manabase. Those are the thoughts: We are using a lot of Mountiains>Valakut, We are using a lot of Artifacts> Mishira's Workshop
1 [REL] Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 [AQ] Mishra's Workshop
48 [ZEN] Mountain (4)

// Godo Toolbox 4 - Why don't abuse of him? with Minion+Mimic we may put 2 equip onto the batt. for only 5mana... :D
1 [CHK] Godo, Bandit Warlord
1 [EX] Erratic Portal
1 [ALA] Minion Reflector
1 [SOM] Mimic Vat

//Welder Toolbox 3 - Another toolbox to recycle broken artifacts and take card advantage
1 [UL] Goblin Welder
1 [MBS] Ichor Wellspring - OR
1 [MR] Solemn Simulacrum
1 [MR] Myr Retriever - OR
1 [DS] Arcbound Reclaimer

// Tutoring 2
1 [P3] Imperial Recruiter
1 [US] Gamble

// Mana Ramp 8 - Not conventional Mana Rampaging, we take advantage of red doubling capabilities and then with storm cauldron mantain mana outgoing while the opponent isn't prepared for bouncing lands. Explorer scope is a 50% extra landrop.
1 [ZEN] Explorer's Scope
1 [US] Thran Turbine
1 [CS] Braid of Fire
1 [U] Mana Flare
1 [MR] Extraplanar Lens
1 [A] Gauntlet of Might
1 [AL] Storm Cauldron
1 [TSP] Gauntlet of Power

// Land Distruption 4 - Land denial strategy for slowing down opponents relaying on mana intensive decks
1 [PLC] Boom/Bust
1 [PT] Devastation
1 [M11] Destructive Force
1 [UD] Wake of Destruction

// Mass Removals 2
1 [ROE] All Is Dust
1 [8E] Obliterate

// Draw Engine 6 - With lots of mana and lands well of knowledge and Greed are good outs, Mind's eye make them asymmetrical a little bit.
1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [LRW] Rings of Brighthearth
1 [WL] Well of Knowledge
1 [SH] Horn of Greed
1 [MR] Mind's Eye
1 [U] Wheel of Fortune

// Deathtouch Equip Toolbox 4 - Make ashling a global creature removal + stealer seems good
1 [WWK] Basilisk Collar
1 [MOR] Thornbite Staff
1 [MR] Scythe of the Wretched
1 [SOM] Nim Deathmantle

// Kaldra Equip Toolbox 3 - The Global removal now exiles :D Helm suff is very usefull but Indestructibilty it is more.
1 [MR] Sword of Kaldra
1 [DS] Shield of Kaldra
1 [PRE] Helm of Kaldra

// World Slayer Equip Toolbox 2 - So do we need some tabula rasa? Maybe we need first make Ashling evasive..
1 [MBS] Darksteel Plate
1 [MR] Worldslayer

// Global Utility ToolBox 5 - Enemy color swords provides protection, usefull abl. and evasion; esoskeleton halfs the race and wand is all inclusive solution for evasion pumping and drawing, why not?!
1 [SOM] Grafted Exoskeleton
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
1 [MBS] Sword of Feast and Famine
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
1 [MOR] Diviner's Wand

// Protection Utility Toolbox 3 - Full defensive strategy covers olso the player now
1 [M10] Magebane Armor
1 [CHK] General's Kabuto
1 [RAV] Pariah's Shield

// Finishing Touch 3 - +3/+3 Trample cc1? too worty. Forge + Worldslayer = GG. Karn turns The voltron in a Aggro..unpredictable.
1 [CHK] Tenza, Godo's Maul
1 [HOP] Darksteel Forge
1 [V10] Karn, Silver Golem


V1.1
//Commander
1 [LRW] Ashling the Pilgrim

// Lands 50
1 [REL] Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1 [AQ] Mishra's Workshop
1 [JGC] Maze of Ith
1 [SOK] Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
1 [CS] Scrying Sheets
45 [CS] Snow-Covered Mountain

// Godo Toolbox 4
1 [CHK] Godo, Bandit Warlord
1 [EX] Erratic Portal
1 [ALA] Minion Reflector
1 [SOM] Mimic Vat

//Welder Toolbox 3
1 [UL] Goblin Welder
1 [MBS] Ichor Wellspring
1 [MR] Solemn Simulacrum

// Tutoring 4
1 [P3] Imperial Recruiter
1 [US] Gamble
1 [CHK] Journeyer's Kite
1 [US] Temporal Aperture

// Mana Ramp 11
1 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos
1 [ZEN] Explorer's Scope
1 [US] Thran Turbine
1 [CS] Braid of Fire
1 [U] Mana Flare
1 [MR] Extraplanar Lens
1 [A] Gauntlet of Might
1 [MR] Blinkmoth Urn
1 [AL] Storm Cauldron
1 [TSP] Gauntlet of Power
1 [NP] Caged Sun

// Land Distruption 4
1 [PLC] Boom/Bust
1 [PT] Devastation
1 [M11] Destructive Force
1 [UD] Wake of Destruction

// Mass Removals 2
1 [ROE] All Is Dust
1 [8E] Obliterate

// Draw Engine 6
1 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [LRW] Rings of Brighthearth
1 [WL] Well of Knowledge
1 [SH] Horn of Greed
1 [MR] Mind's Eye
1 [U] Wheel of Fortune

// Deathtouch Equip Toolbox 2
1 [WWK] Basilisk Collar
1 [MR] Scythe of the Wretched

// World Slayer Equip Toolbox 2
1 [MBS] Darksteel Plate
1 [MR] Worldslayer

// Global Utility ToolBox 6
1 [SOM] Grafted Exoskeleton
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
1 [MBS] Sword of Feast and Famine
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
1 [M11] Whispersilk Cloak
1 [M11] Sword of Vengeance

// Protection Utility Toolbox 2
1 [M10] Magebane Armor
1 [RAV] Pariah's Shield

// Finishing Touch 3
1 [CHK] Tenza, Godo's Maul
1 [HOP] Darksteel Forge
1 [V10] Karn, Silver Golem


Angry Ashling

//Commander
1 [LRW] Ashling the Pilgrim

// Lands 50
1 [SOK] Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
1 [CS] Scrying Sheets
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
1 [NE] Terrain Generator
45 [CS] Snow-Covered Mountain
1 [AQ] Mishra's Workshop

//Ramp 18
1 [FD] Wayfarer's Bauble
1 [V10] Sol Ring
1 [US] Thran Turbine
1 [R] Mana Vault
1 [ZEN] Explorer's Scope
1 [AQ] Candelabra of Tawnos
1 [CS] Rite of Flame
1 [CHK] Desperate Ritual
1 [M11] Pyretic Ritual
1 [CS] Braid of Fire
1 [MR] Seething Song
1 [U] Mana Flare
1 [SH] Heartstone
1 [MR] Extraplanar Lens
1 [A] Gauntlet of Might
1 [TSP] Gauntlet of Power
1 [AL] Storm Cauldron
1 [NP] Caged Sun

// Draw & Tutor 8
1 [CHK] Godo, Bandit Warlord
1 [V09] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [US] Gamble
1 [U] Wheel of Fortune
1 [WL] Well of Knowledge
1 [SH] Horn of Greed
1 [M11] Temple Bell
1 [MR] Mind's Eye

// Distruption 7
1 [SOM] Ratchet Bomb
1 [SH] Ruination
1 [EX] Erratic Portal *
1 [PT] Devastation
1 [M11] Destructive Force
1 [ROE] All Is Dust
1 [PLC] Boom/Bust
1 [8E] Obliterate

// Equip 14
1 [WWK] Basilisk Collar
1 [MR] Scythe of the Wretched
1 [WWK] Claws of Valakut
1 [CHK] Tenza, Godo's Maul
1 [FD] Grafted Wargear
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
1 [SOM] Strata Scythe
1 [M11] Whispersilk Cloak
1 [MBS] Darksteel Plate
1 [MBS] Sword of Feast and Famine
1 [M10] Magebane Armor
1 [M11] Sword of Vengeance
1 [SOM] Grafted Exoskeleton
1 [SOM] Argentum Armor


Thx for reading .D i'm open to any advice :D

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Kozilek, Butcher of Colorless Generals
Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre alias Call of Cthulhu
Renaissance - SenTriplets / Doomsday / Maniac Combo


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 Post subject: Re: [Deck] Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
AgePosted: 2011-Apr-10 9:28 am 
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No one is reading!?!?! Please help me getting this deck better :D

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Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre alias Call of Cthulhu
Renaissance - SenTriplets / Doomsday / Maniac Combo


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 Post subject: Re: [Deck] Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
AgePosted: 2011-Apr-10 2:25 pm 
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Age: Elder Dragon
Location: Memphis, TN
I like your Goblin Welder setup.

I recommend Mishra's Factory, Mutavault, Mind Stone, Claws of Valakut, Mana Geyser, Repercussion, Smash, Crimson Wisps, Price of Progress, and possibly Nim Deathmantle. I prefer Temple Bell to Well of Knowledge and Horn of Greed.

I don't see the power of Minion Reflector in your list. Are you copying Godo with it? And legend-ruling him? I think I'd rather have Godo, who can swing with one equipment twice, than two equipment and need another creature to wield them. Even with Nim Deathmantle, that's too mana-intensive to be good. (5 to cast Reflector, 5R to cast Godo, 2 to copy, 4 to return, 16R total!) I don't really like Pariah's Shield, either. Just take the damage. You can afford it.

My (non-Voltron) Ashling list is here.

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 Post subject: Re: [Deck] Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
AgePosted: 2011-Apr-11 4:51 am 
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Thx Fugu for your answer..

You're right about "godo's toolbox" completely uneffective: many times i don't want to pay cc5 for casting a minion refl. or something else. Idem for pariah.

Yesterday i've been playing vs. Doran, Siege Tower...olso without equipment his race was faster then mine...HOW DAMM IT'S POSSIBILE i said :S, and i couldn't wipe out his doran in any way.

so i'm looking to re-set the deck with this inspiration:
Ashling = {1}{R}: +1/+1 ... so every equip that have a better ratio CC / (+1/+1) has to be in, like Grafted Wargear...and your Claws of Valakut (seems to be perfect :) )

However 1 problem still remains: focusing on equips rather than putting +1/+1 counters on ahsling makes the "ashling's flare" less effective so, we need to use deathtouch in some way..

I don't like manlands because of many gauntlet effects we have. instead Temple Bell, Ruination (form your non-voltron list ;) and like i said before Claws of Valakut are going in "list".
i thought Mana Vault was banned (in duels),now will be another good cc1 drop in my mana accelleration dept.

I was tinking also to remove mind's eye.

What you think about!?

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Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
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Renaissance - SenTriplets / Doomsday / Maniac Combo


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AgePosted: 2011-Apr-13 1:45 pm 

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Terrain Generatorseems like it might be... rather good in a list with 45 basic lands.

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 Post subject: Re: [Deck] Ashiling The Pilgrim - Voltron + ToolBoxes
AgePosted: 2011-Apr-15 6:43 am 
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THX for the advice(s).. i played a bit this week and i found there are too many dead cards in this kind of voltron /toolbox, so, looking at fugu's list (with desperate ritual) i re-invented the deck -without toolboxes (this time) and much more mana accelleration... check this out :D

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