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 Post subject: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-14 6:21 am 

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Here is the current decklist:

Commander: 1 Omnath, Locus of Mana

Artifacts:
1 Altar of Dementia
1 Expedition Map
1 Doubling Cube
1 Slate of Ancestry
1 Mishra's Helix
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Mind's Eye
1 Skullclamp
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Akroma's Memorial

Creatures:
1 Elvish Champion
1 Caller of the Claw
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Wirewood Herald
1 Wirewood Hivemaster
1 Quirion Ranger
1 Ambush Commander
1 Priest of Titania
1 Wirewood Channeler
1 Heritage Druid
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Elvish Archdruid
1 Elvish Soultiller
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Elvish Piper
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Tajuru Preserver
1 Joraga Warcaller
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Primeval Titan
1 Skyshroud Poacher
1 Eternal Witness
1 Ant Queen
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Seedborn Muse
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
1 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking

Enchantments:
1 Greater Good
1 Beastmaster Ascension
1 Fecundity
1 Helix Pinnacle
1 Exploration
1 Asceticism
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Vernal Bloom
1 Wild Pair
1 Quest for Renewal
1 Bear Umbra

Instants:
1 Crop Rotation

Sorceries:
1 Overwhelming Stampede
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Reap and Sow
1 Genesis Wave
1 Kodama's Reach

Planeswalkers:
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

Lands:
34 Forest
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1 Deserted Temple
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Yavimaya Hollow

I am anticipating adding Spawning Shell from the new set, but I am excited to see the green Praetor.

// General
1 Omnath, Locus of Mana

// Creatures
1 Ant Queen
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 Caller of the Claw
1 Chameleon Colossus
1 Citanul Hierophants
1 Deranged Hermit
1 Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
1 Elder Druid
1 Elvish Archdruid
1 Elvish Champion
1 Elvish Piper
1 Elvish Soultiller
1 Eternal Witness
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Heritage Druid
1 Immaculate Magistrate
1 Imperious Perfect
1 Joraga Warcaller
1 Llanowar Elves
1 Lys Alana Huntmaster
1 Norwood Priestess
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Pendelhaven Elder
1 Priest of Titania
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Seeker of Skybreak
1 Skyshroud Poacher
1 Taunting Elf
1 Wirewood Channeler
1 Wirewood Herald

// Spells
1 Collective Unconscious
1 Crop Rotation
1 Doubling Season
1 Elvish Guidance
1 Elvish Promenade
1 Fecundity
1 Gaea's Anthem
1 Greater Good
1 Harmonize
1 Helix Pinnacle
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Land Grant
1 Overrun
1 Reap and Sow
1 Realms Uncharted (replaced: Exploration)
1 Restock
1 Vernal Bloom
1 Worldly Tutor

// Artifacts
1 Akroma's Memorial
1 Altar of Dementia
1 Doubling Cube
1 Emerald Medallion
1 Expedition Map
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Helm of Possession
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Skullclamp
1 Slate of Ancestry
1 Staff of Domination

// Planeswalkers
1 Garruk Wildspeaker

// Lands
33 Forest
1 Deserted Temple
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1 Yavimaya Hollow

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-14 7:16 am 
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I like it. You might add Extraplanar Lens and Mana Reflection as redundant mana doublers. Since you kinda have a token subtheme going you could probably get good value out of Eldrazi Monument as well. And since you have a ton of elves, Nissa Revane might be good for you too.

You could lose Doubling Cube, since you have to activate it vs. the static effects of lens/reflection/gauntlet. I'm not fond of Exploration - one shot and doesn't do much. Rofellos/Staff of Dom... so overdone.:facepalm: I'd cut the staff since Roffy feeds your big mana theme well.

Incidentally I like the Altar of Dementia kill you have going.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-14 8:07 am 

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I agree that Rofellos/Staff may be overdone, but effective nonetheless. Maybe I should cut it though. I've noticed that Doubling Cube has the distinct disadvantage of being significantly inferior who I'm not already producing a lot of mana. However, it does offer huge advantages with my Altar of Dementia kill against multiple opponents. I specifically cut Nissa Revane from my deck since Nissa's Chosen is lack-lustrous at best and Nissa's final ability takes too many turns to build up. You may have a point on Exploration; it may be what I cut to bring in Realms Uncharted.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-14 9:43 am 
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apollo40108 wrote:
I specifically cut Nissa Revane from my deck since Nissa's Chosen is lack-lustrous at best and Nissa's final ability takes too many turns to build up.

You can always use Nissa's second ability to pump her up.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-15 7:45 am 
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Trample for Omnath would serve you well. Rancor is a good option.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-17 7:34 am 

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I'd suggest the snake shamans form Kamigawa. They work pretty well at pumping Omnath in the early turns.


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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-20 9:08 am 

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I'm surprised no one's suggested Seedborn Muse or Patron of the Orochi, they're some of the best mana enablers for green.

Roughshod Mentor gives Omnath trample too so you can hit with general damage.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-21 5:41 am 

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Patron of the Orochi seems okay, but Seedborn Muse seems much stronger. I should probably find a way to add it in.

Rancor seems like a strange oversight for me, as I love that card.

I've been thinking of another build to this deck that would attempt to run the big Eldrazi, specifically Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth. The deck would still run the elf mana generation, but it would be more creature-search geared. Suggestions?

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-21 2:50 pm 

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Defense of the Heart and Pattern of Rebirth are good creature-finders. Joraga Treespeaker is a must for elf decks. Also, do you not have Greenseeker Druid or Fyndhorn Elder in this deck. Is that deliberate?


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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-22 7:08 am 
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Ambush Commander + Bear Umbra seems like it would work quite well in this deck, or just the Aura by itself seems good on Omnath.

Desert Twister, Rootgraple, Hurricane??!!

Have you yet pulled off the Archdruid win??
I used Seton, Krosan Hero to achieve a similar idea long ago, it was a blast!!

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-22 8:01 am 

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Ambush Commander seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Any Wrath of God effect becomes a one-sided Armageddon. If Altar of Dementia is in play, this isn't a problem, but even Greater Good here becomes discard two cards.

Bear Umbra is definitely a card worth considering.

I can definitely see the pattern of cards that you are looking at. The deck definitely could use some defensive/destruction spells.

Archdruid win?

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-22 8:39 am 
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I will never drop the Ambush commander without having two mana left open to sack itself if need be, although with the Alter or Dementia out or cards such as High Market, or Phyrexian Alter you have another way to get him off the board before a sweeper hits. It is situational, but sacking the Commando to Greater Good could net you cards with a Champion or it's ilk out...

Gilt-Leaf Archdruid allows you to tap seven dudes to win the game. I was mistaking the Elvish Archdruid for him... Could be a possible worth while addition.

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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-22 8:59 am 

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I'm thinking Ambush commander to replace Taunting Elf. I missed the second ability the first time that I looked. I'm not sure that Gilt-Leaf Archdruid is a viable addition.

I'm going to have to take a better look at the umbras coming out in this set too.

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AgePosted: 2010-Apr-22 11:04 am 

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I've seen people use Wren's Run Packmaster to sink mana when Omnath dies to a none wrath effect.

Patron of the Orochi/Seedborn Muse + Helix Pinnacle is quite good.

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3] Isperia the Inscrutable (U/W Control)
4] Mayael the Anima (Fatties FTW!)
5] Omnath, Locus of Mana (Big Green Men)
6] Oros, The Avenger (Rock Burn)
7] Savra, Queen of the Golgari (Token Snack)
8] Rafiq of the Many (One Man, Alone)
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 Post subject: Re: Omnath, Locus of Mana
AgePosted: 2010-Apr-28 1:44 pm 

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Patron of the Orochi is worth a try, I suppose. I just feel that the card doesn't quite work for the deck.

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