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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Mar-08 12:03 pm 
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Possible additions:

Abuse commander
Illusionist's Bracers
Rings of Brighthearth
Seedborn Muse
Thousand-Year Elixir

Card draw
Angelheart Vial
Greater Good
Harmonize
Mind's Eye
Momentous Fall
Staff of Domination
Staff of Nin
Well of Lost Dreams

Graveyard Hate
Angel of Finality
Night Soil
Scavenging Ooze
Stonecloaker

Haste/Protection
Aspect of Mongoose
Lightning Greaves
Swiftfoot Boots

Lands
Ancient Tomb
Command Tower
Deserted Temple - combos with Thawing Glaciers. Also can untap Kor Haven.
Emeria, the Sky Ruin
Flagstones of Trokair
Gavony Township
Grasslands
Hall of the Bandit Lord
High Market
Homeward Path
Krosan Verge
Mistveil Plains
Myriad Landscape
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
Serra's Sanctum
Sapseep Forest
Temple of the False God
Thawing Glaciers
Winding Canyons
Yavimaya Hollow

Life gain
Spike Feeder - combos with Archangel of Thune
Wall of Reverence
Words of Worship

Pillow fort
Angelic Arbiter
Arboria
Blazing Archon
Island Sanctuary
Magus of the Moat
Martyr's Cause
Righteous Aura
Spike Weaver
Safeguard
Solitary Confinement
Spear of Heliod
Story Circle
Vengeful Archon

Planeswalkers
Ajani Goldmane
Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
Elspeth Tirel

Ramp
Burnished Hart - Joz's favorite
Gift of Estates
Into the Wilds
Land Tax
Knight of the White Orchid
Kor Cartographer
Oracle of Mul Daya
Pilgrim's Eye
Pristine Talisman
Sol Ring
Tithe
Weathered Wayfarer

Recursion
Adarkar Valkyrie
Angelic Renewal
Elixir of Immortality - on theme and saves your stuff
Faith's Reward
Karmic Guide
Marshal's Anthem
Replenish
Reveillark
Saffi Eriksdotter
Sigil of the New Dawn
Silent Sentinel

Removal
Acidic Slime
Angel of the Dire Hour
Archon of Justice
Aura of Silence
Austere Command
Banishing Light
Beast Within
Cessation
Duplicant
Dust to Dust
Krosan Grip
Luminate Primordial
Oblivion Ring
Rain of Thorns
Return to Dust
Seal of Cleansing
Song of the Dryads
Spirit Loop - nerfs a creature when attacking you, gains life if creature attacks someone else.
Sunblast Angel
Wing Shards
Woodfall Primus
World Queller

Top deck manipulation
Crystal Ball
Darksteel Pendant
Mirri's Guile
Sensei's Divining Top
Scroll Rack
Sylvan Library

Top deck shenanigans
Abundance
Call of the Wild
Courser of Kruphix
Druidic Satchel
Lurking Predators

Tutors
Academy Rector
Fauna Shaman
Sterling Grove
Survival of the Fittest

Utility
Auratog - use him to: sac enchantments that return to hand and recast to draw cards with cards like Verduran Enchantress, save enchantments from exile, sac cards like Oblivion Ring with the triggered abilities on the stack to permanently exile cards, and combos with Martyr's Bond.
Aven Mindcensor
Cradle of Vitality - combos with persist creatures and Spike Weaver
Hushwing Gryff
Karmic Justice
Martyr's Bond
Restoration Angel
Thragtusk

Win cons
Ajani's Pridemate
Luminarch Ascension
Storm Herd
Sunscorch Regent - new from Dragons of Tarkir

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Mar-08 12:20 pm 

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That's a list. the Rings and Bracers won't work though, Selvala's Parley is a (rather unusual) mana ability.

I'll take a look-see.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Mar-08 1:42 pm 

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Some good suggestions there. Here's what I'd consider adding.

Deserted Temple
Good with Mazes. Expensive. Not worth a slot over Righteous Aura (see below)

+Into the Wilds
-Rowen
I have a spare, and it's just a better choice. No reveal, you get an effective draw for all lands instead of basics, same CMC.

+Lurking Predators
-Primative Etchings
Same function, but without reveal, cheat into play, and dig for Wincons. I need to get one... Later. Gotta space out my purchases...

+Sigil of the New Dawn
-Primeval Bounty
Bounty was never fully on theme; mostly just for the landfall effect. Sigil of the new Dawn is more useful to recur utility creatures (i.e. all of them) and to trigger the Soul Sisters.

+Righteous Aura
-???
Another anti-commander damage card, but repeatable. Nice. More utility than Deserted Temple would have. Not sure what to remove. Contemplation? Powerleech?

Elixir of Immortality
Good call. Not sure how often it'd be more useful than an alternative. Maybeboard.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Mar-09 12:13 pm 

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OP updated. Ended up cutting Powerleech for Righteous Aura.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Mar-25 11:27 pm 

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-Radiant Fountain
-Library of Leng

+Arcane Lighthouse
+Expedition Map

From some discussion with Joz last night. A couple changes to increase the Consistency and breadth of effect of the anti-Voltron package.

Two maybes I'd like feedback on:

1) Wirewood Lodge. It's awesome in my Elzuri Manadorks. I'd like to include it as a Parley enabler, but I already have three mana producing lands that produce colorless only. I'm concerned about how that will effect the consistency of my manabase early on. Does anyone have any experience with this? I generally use fewer utility lands than this deck has, so I'm a bit outside my comfort zone here.

2) Mystifying Maze. It's growing on me over Ice Floe. Ice Floe can lock down a creature over several turns and requires no mana investment. In this way it prevents Narset's attack triggers. It only works on nonfliers though. On the other hand, Mystifying Maze strips the upgrades off a Voltron general, and deals effectively with +1/+1 strategies too, particularly Hydras. In the other hand, it's an awful lot of mana to leave open. I'm going to test out Ice Floe tonight since I have it already, but I'm interested in which one others prefer.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Jul-12 4:12 am 

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New set update.

+Alhammarret's Archive
Did they make this card specifically for my deck or what? Double life gain AND double draws from parley and enchantress effects? Oh hells yes!
+Herald of the Pantheon
Cost reduction and life gain in one isn't bad either.
-Moonlit Wake
-Dictate of Karametra

Starfield of Nyx is great recursion, but turning stuff into creatures is not so good.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Jul-18 10:25 am 

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I felt I could tighten things up a bit more, and weed out a few marginal cards.

+Starfield of Nyx
I decided I really liked the recursion more than I disliked the creatures. Plus I got one in my packs. Unlike Alhammarret's Archive. :x
+Silent Arbiter
Extra Dueling Grounds? Sure.
+Ghostly Prison
Moar pillow fort!
+Orbs of Warding
Moar! Moar!
+Deicide
Because Tainted Remedy. Oh how I dread facing that without an answer.
+Command Tower
It's commander. And I had one free.

-Eternal Witness
Not really on theme, and I've got a decent recursion suite now, for WG.
-Spiritual Asylum
For Orbs of Warding. Never really made itself useful.
-Nyx-Fleece Ram
-Contemplation
-Shattered Angel
Marginal cards, though not useless at all.
-Plains
For Command Tower.

Burgeoning? It'd have its uses, and it's CMC1. Or will Exploration be enough?

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Jul-24 5:45 am 

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Not a bad game last night, though i didn't get to play with new toys much. Vs Child of Alara and mono-w bird guy (Kirtar?)The baby exploded once, killing various things, but mostly Sphere of safety and Aurification. Maze of Ith was safe, of course. Then I played Kor Haven, Dueling Grounds, Boon Reflection, some life gain, and a couple Enchantresses. After a few turns of lockdown (81 life) we called it a game.

Never had so much of my fort come up at once before.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Jul-24 11:24 am 
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Any reason you're not running Cradle of Vitality? Maybe I missed it being talked about somewhere...

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Jul-24 12:00 pm 

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Because the deck is built around not doing any damage whatsoever. Awesome card, but for me it reads 1W: do nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Aug-13 8:23 am 

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Intrepid Hero? Playable? Off theme?

I'm replacing Lurking Predators with Swords to Plowshares.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Aug-13 10:57 am 
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Out of curiosity, if I hit you with Jester's Cap or Sadistic Sacrament... what's plan B?

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Aug-13 11:19 am 

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Sid the Chicken wrote:
... what's plan B?


First I'd explain in great depth how I hate you and what I'll do to your corpse...

No, wait. Angels from Sigil of the Empty Throne and Angelic Accord. There is no Plan C.

...

Tuesday I played in commander night. Myself, Derevi, Blue Braids, and Gisela. Gisela got eliminated early as I experienced mana troubles. I cast (in consecutive turns) DoJ, Rout (to kill the stupid squids: this was a mistake), and fracturing gust. I then cast Test of Endurance. Braids cast Platinum Angel. Derevi stole it. Braids cloned it. WTF? They got me down to 48 before I started outpacing them in life gain. Derevi eventually got knocked out. With one wipe left I just started digging. I eventually found it six cards from the bottom. Braids promptly countered it. At this point Test had been checking for probably five or six turns and I was at at least 250 life. Most hilarious game in a long time.

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 Post subject: Re: Selvala Enchantress Lifegain
AgePosted: 2015-Sep-28 12:40 pm 

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The above game taught me two things: I have limited answers, and I needed more answers to Platinum Angel and artifacts in general.

Thus, I added a light recursion suite of Gaea's Blessing, Serene Remembrance, and Dwell on the Past to go along with Bow of Nylea. These replaced Lurking Predators (had an annoying tendency to tuck my enchantments while looking for creatures), Sigil of the New Dawn (the new recursion has broader applicability), and Orbs of Warding.

I also added Swords to Plowshares for if I need removal with extreme prejudice. I traded out my enchantment exile, Deicide, Erase, and Wipe Clean, for that and enchantment and artifact exile in the form of Fate Forgotten and Return to Dust.

Finally, BFZ brought Retreat to Kazandu, which replaced Grazing Gladehart (functionally identical, with extra Enchantress trigger), Canopy Vista, which replaced a Plains, and Aligned Hedron Network, which replaced Proper Burial. AHN is a great addition to the Pillowfort repertoire, and has an interesting synergy with Twilight Shepherd. AHN will exile Shepherd, until such time AHN is destroyed (but not exiled of course); Shepherd then reenters play, returning AHN to my hand to recast. This casts the P5 net even wider.

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-Kazandu Refuge
-Shattering Gust
+Path to Exile
+Sylvan Library

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