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AgePosted: 2009-Mar-11 11:58 pm 

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yeah, more often than not a firespout against a token EDH is just as effective as a wrath anyways. I added molten disaster and am looking for desert twister as added sweepers. Martial coup is still missing from my arsenal but damage works just as well most of the time.

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I am playing firespout and breath of darigaaz, used to have pyrohemia and pyroclasm in, but they just didn´t work very well. Pyrohemia often required more red than I had and pyroclasm often did too little damage. Note that it´s not just tokens that are an issue, though they are a little more common. The main issue is that I´m often outnumbered by my opponent´s creatures, large or small (that is when things are going wrong, quite often I come out on top).

I guess I need to think hard about whether I really need to play as many small creatures as I do. I am guessing I could probably replace some with more mass removal, preferrably stuff that hits more than just creatures.

Jukren54, I am guessing you mean savage instead of desert twister?

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I just wanted to report on Timesifter, as I saw it mentioned on this thread and I tried in my Mayael deck.

My friend was playing my Mayael deck against me playing Sharuum 1v1. He resolved Timeshifter on turn 5 (with Sylvan Library and Mayael in play). On my turn I blew up all artifacts, which was basically my entire side, to kill Timeshifter. He still got an extra turn out of it. We determined after the game that if I hadn't acted, I would not have gotten another turn.

You may consider it "too cheap", but it certainly is an unusual way to victory, and extra turns in multiplayer games are golden. Another way to look at it is that Timesifter + deck manipulation in Mayael is like Panoptic Mirror/Timewarp. It's Timmy and Johnny and Spike all at once.

It's only a single data point though. Has anyone else tried it?


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I am playing firespout and breath of darigaaz, used to have pyrohemia and pyroclasm in, but they just didn´t work very well. Pyrohemia often required more red than I had and pyroclasm often did too little damage. Note that it´s not just tokens that are an issue, though they are a little more common. The main issue is that I´m often outnumbered by my opponent´s creatures, large or small (that is when things are going wrong, quite often I come out on top).

I guess I need to think hard about whether I really need to play as many small creatures as I do. I am guessing I could probably replace some with more mass removal, preferrably stuff that hits more than just creatures.

Jukren54, I am guessing you mean savage instead of desert twister?


oops, yeah, I meant savage twister.

Another great sweeper card is rupture. three mana and a fatty to completely decimate the board and deals damage to players.

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billyh wrote:
I just wanted to report on Timesifter, as I saw it mentioned on this thread and I tried in my Mayael deck.
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You may consider it "too cheap", but it certainly is an unusual way to victory, and extra turns in multiplayer games are golden. Another way to look at it is that Timesifter + deck manipulation in Mayael is like Panoptic Mirror/Timewarp. It's Timmy and Johnny and Spike all at once.

It's only a single data point though. Has anyone else tried it?


It's an interesting idea. My problem with it is that it requires some sort of deck manipulation, meaning Top or Sylvan Library or something similar, and it also restricts your ability to activate Mayael. My deck basically just concentrates on getting the fat out. If you throw Timesifter out there then activate Mayael with a Top in play, you can only dig 3 cards deep. And there's the possibility that one of your opponents could have Time Stretch or something similar. The ability to lock out an opponent is nothing to be sneezed at, though, but it seems a little too situational for my tastes.


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I would agree, while on avarage I might have more expensive cards than my opponents there is no garantee I'll have a more expensive cards on top than they do. Also many of my cards solve a specific problem. Removing them from the game means less options for solving that problem.

Rupture sounds interesting, can't help wanting it to be an instant though.

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Rupture sounds interesting, can't help wanting it to be an instant though.


meh. most of the damage dealing sweepers are sorceries anyway. and for 3 mana and a large fatty you can decimate most of the board, I mean who expects a sweeper (that kills players too) when you only have 3 mana up?

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Firespout, but indeed, probably nobody expects it. Unfortunately, that doesn't matter much. As because of its sorcery speed you won't be catching people with their pants down. Also it feels bad saccing a perfectly good fatty. I guess the fatty's gone anyway though, as that's pretty much what they do when you hit with mass removal. Still, I don't quite like that it doesn't hit fliers and allows regeneration.

For now I'm keeping it in mind, but leaving it out.

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I've used Timetwister in my Mayael deck but I did not include elements to rig the top of my deck to get infinite turns, except for a single Congregation at Dawn.

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I'm sure you mean timesifter.

You say you have used it, you moved it out again? Why did you do that?

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Firespout, but indeed, probably nobody expects it. Unfortunately, that doesn't matter much. As because of its sorcery speed you won't be catching people with their pants down. Also it feels bad saccing a perfectly good fatty. I guess the fatty's gone anyway though, as that's pretty much what they do when you hit with mass removal. Still, I don't quite like that it doesn't hit fliers and allows regeneration.

For now I'm keeping it in mind, but leaving it out.


I'm still waiting for the moment when I sac a primed hamletback goliath to it!

I guess your right about it being a limited sweeper. I find though that regeneration isn't a big deal in EDH. With all of th wraths and damnations and RFGing it seems that regeneration has gone out of fashion. Rarely do I see creatures with this ability. A lot of the time people use budget wrath options too which more often than not don't include the "can't be regenerated clause" anyways.

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7] Savra, Queen of the Golgari (Token Snack)
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So yesterday I saw a new mayael deck someone was playing and I have to say it was one of the worst ones I've ever seen. The guys had more one and two drop elves for mana fixing than he did 5 power matters guys (of which he had 12 btw). I'm not even sure what he had in the rest of the deck.... I tried to gently tell him he needs a lot more fatties but he stated that he almost always hits with mayael, which I seriously doubt. I'm up to 35 5 power guys and I still miss sometimes...

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Soul's Fire an 86/86 Hamletback Goliath ftw?

are you referring to the guy at club? There's one guy who recently got back into Magic and plays a Mayael deck in red sleeves I think. I could swear that deck is Shards block. Purple Flying Hippo took it down handily then he tried to tell me that his deck works better in multiplayer (due to the fact that he gets to fly under the radar for not being a threat), and I rolled my eyes. He'll consistently miss eventually. I still occasionally miss with a low-20 fatty Mayael deck. That's already one in five, literally.

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Yeah I'm talking about that guy. I want to duel him with my own mayael and see how he does, not just to win but to try to "teach through example." I agree that that deck is basically shards block and aside from paleoloth, meglonoth, spearbreaker, and plowbeasts, the deck looked like a whole lot of nothing. I can't even remember if he included any other mulit-purpose good cards.

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So I've changed my list around quite a bit and I figured I re-post and check for feedback on my card choices. (note still looking for greater good and aura shards.)

SB: Mayael the Anima

Mayaelables (36)
(1) Akroma, Angel of Wrath
(1) Akroma, Angel of Fury
(1) Razia, Boros Archangel
(1) Twilight Shepherd
(1) Spearbreaker Behemoth
(1) Vagrant Plowbeasts
(1) Mosstodon
(1) Beacon Behemoth
(1) Rakeclaw Gargantuan
(1) Sundering Titan
(1) Godsire
(1) Meglonoth
(1) Sabertooth Nishoba
(1) Woodfall Primus
(1) Crater Hellion
(1) Hostlity
(1) Vigor
(1) Purity
(1) Yosei, The Morning Star
(1) Cliffrunner Behemoth
(1) Scourge of Kher Ridges
(1) Living Inferno
(1) Borborgymos
(1) Windbrisk Raptor
(1) Patron of the Kitsune
(1) Flameblast Dragon
(1) Mossbrige Troll
(1) Thorn Elemental
(1) Hamletback Goliath
(1) Magus of the Arena
(1) Spitebellows
(1) Penumbra Wurm
(1) Bull Cerodon
(1) Nacatl Hunt-Pride
(1) Krosan Tusker

Helper Spells (7):
(1) Rings of Brighthearth
(1) Wild Pair
(1) Where Ancients Tread
(1) Minion Reflector
(1) Naya Charm
(1) Order//Chaos
(1) Eternal Witness


Removal (8)
(1) Desolation Giant
(1) Final Judgement
(1) Austere Command
(1) Fracturing Gust
(1) Rupture
(1) Molten Disaster
(1) Hurricane
(1) Warp World
(1) Incendiary Command

Mana Fixers/Accel (11)
(1) Farhaven Elf
(1) New Frontiers
(1) Drumhunter
(1) Kodama's Reach
(1) Harrow
(1) Gift of the Gargantuan
(1) Rampant Growth
(1) Boros Signet
(1) Selenesya Signet
(1) Gruul Signet
(1) Mirari's Wake

Lands (37)
(6) Forests
(6) Mountains
(6) Plains
(1) Junge Shrine
(1) Rith's Grove
(1) Rupture Spire
(1) Vivid Crag
(1) Vivid Meadow
(1) Vivid Grove
(1) Naya Panorama
(1) Elfhame Palace
(1) Gruul Turf
(1) Selenesya Sanctuary
(1) Boros Garrison
(1) Tree Top Village
(1) Mosswort Bridge
(1) Smoldering Crater
(1) Slippery Karst
(1) Forgotten Cave
(1) Sandstone Needle
(1) Hickory Woodlot
(1) Remote Farm

Loss of Deus and Oversoul: Too hard to cast when you have them in your hand and sure, they'e good, but they don't effect the board enough compared to Flameblast dragon or Magus of the Arena.

Loss of Cloudthresher: Slightly hard to cast from hand, nice sweeper though, trying out a primalcrux casual deck so I pulled the thresher out.

Yes and run the red command: that or firespout and I wanted the ability to kill annoying lands and it still deals with hoards of tokens.

More sweepers and Wrath Effects: Yay! this also feeds into my inclusion of purity and hostility to gain life and make dudes. Just have to pick spots carefully. Warp world as a semi sweeper trading 14 lands for 6 lands and 8 fatties seems alright to me.

Mana Fixing: I needed STE, explosive vegetation, recross the paths etc for another EDH and I only have singles so I had to substitute.

Cycling lands and land increase: More options when you get mana flooded and less reliance on the mana fixing to get you there.

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6] Oros, The Avenger (Rock Burn)
7] Savra, Queen of the Golgari (Token Snack)
8] Rafiq of the Many (One Man, Alone)
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