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 Post subject: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-06 1:40 am 
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"CHILL"
"COOL PARTY"
"STAY COOL"
"FREEEEEEEZE IN HELL, BATMAN"
"IT IS THE CHILLING SOUND OF YOUR DOOOOOM"

So after I made that awesome Jaya Ballard fire-themed deck, I had to make an antithesis.

ICE

I also half made this deck for a friend is is a fan of all ice-related things, so he could get into Magic. Plus, Heidar is a criminally underused general, considering a deck built around him basically only asks for Snow-Covered lands and it insultingly easy to pull off.

Mr. Freeze himself:
Heidar, Rimewind Master

Ice Kickers:
AEther Adept
Adarkar Windform
Balduvian Frostwaker
Captain of the Mists
Drift of Phantasms
Fatespinner
Fatestitcher
Frost Raptor
Frost Titan
Galvanic Alchemist
Gilded Drake
Phyrexian Ironfoot
Phyrexian Snowcrusher
Rimefeather Owl
Rimewind Cryomancer
Rimewind Taskmage
Snow Fortress
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Tidespout Tyrant
Wall of Frost

Ice Climber:
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage

Ice Sculptures (Artifacts):
Coldsteel Heart
Crystal Ball
Crystal Shard
Expedition Map
Extraplanar Lens
Forcefield
Gauntlet of Power
Icy Manipulator
Lightning Greaves
Magewright's Stone
Mishra's Bauble
Nevinyrral's Disk
Oblivion Stone
Puppet Strings
Sunstone
Swiftfoot Boots
Sword of Fire and Ice
Thousand-Year Elixir

Faster Than the Speed of Ice (Instants):
Brainstorm
Commandeer
Crippling Chill
Flashfreeze
Frost Breath
Hinder
Ray of Command
Time Stop
Turnabout

Delayed Reactions (Sorceries):
Distorting Wake
Inundate
Recurring Insight
Sleep

It's Hard to Keep Making Wordplay Like This (Enchantments):
Counterbalance
Flood
Freed from the Real
Frozen AEther
Frozen Solid
Heightened Awareness
Iceberg
Infinite Reflection
Pemmin's Aura

Ice Caps:
Crystal Vein
Dark Depths
Ice Floe
Minamo, School at Water's Edge
Mouth of Ronom
Scrying Sheets
30 Snow-Covered Island
Tendo Ice Bridge
Thawing Glaciers



The idea of this heaping pile of blue is to slow down the opponent or their creatures, put a halt to spells they cast by tapping/stalling, bounce stuff, and to be as ice-related as possible. If you have any suggestions to make this deck any more useful/ice-related/annoying, please let me know.

But don't suggest Stasis or Mind Over Matter. That's just cold, yo.




CHANGE LOGS:
3/9
-1 Balduvian Conjurer
-1 Crystal Seer

+1 Chancellor of the Spires
+1 Tidewalker

5/2 - AVACYN RESTORED UPDATE:
-1 Chancellor of the Spires
-1 Drelnoch
-1 Ice Cage
-1 Reality Acid
-1 Tidewalker

+1 Captain of the Mists
+1 Crippling Chill
+1 Galvanic Alchemist
+1 Infinite Reflection
+1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage

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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-08 4:47 am 
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The biggest problem is that you have 4 win cons, and only two of them are really that good. Lorthos freezes shit, Chancellor of the Spires could be seen as living on icy mountains, and Cerulean Sphinx looks kinda like it lives in ice.


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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-08 6:06 am 

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Sunstone (also dont use it with Crucible of Worlds its not nice) :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-08 6:54 am 

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Is it wrong that I'd love to watch this play againts your Jaya deck?

In all seriousness I love the idea. Wish I had something to suggest other than Stasis. Winter Orb?

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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-08 7:45 am 

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I like themes as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean you have to play horrible cards.

Proxy wrote:
Adarkar Windform
Balduvian Conjurer
Crystal Seer
Drelnoch


These cards are unplayable. You have a lot of other on-theme cards that sacrifice some power for flavor, which is fine, but these are just a disservice to anyone playing the deck. Find some decent blue elementals to throw in there or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-09 12:37 am 
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Uktabi_Kong wrote:
The biggest problem is that you have 4 win cons, and only two of them are really that good. Lorthos freezes shit, Chancellor of the Spires could be seen as living on icy mountains, and Cerulean Sphinx looks kinda like it lives in ice.


Lorthos is a good option, as is the Chancellor. I'm wanting to use Lorthos for another deck, so I think if I chose one, I'd go with the Chancellor. Not a big fan of the sphinx, but thanks anyway. :)

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Sunstone (also dont use it with Crucible of Worlds its not nice) :lol:


You're right. That is definitely not nice. That is downright EVIL.

<3

Karousawai wrote:
Is it wrong that I'd love to watch this play againts your Jaya deck?

In all seriousness I love the idea. Wish I had something to suggest other than Stasis. Winter Orb?


Dude, I wanna see this play against that too. :D

crokaycete wrote:
I like themes as much as the next guy, but that doesn't mean you have to play horrible cards.

Proxy wrote:
Adarkar Windform
Balduvian Conjurer
Crystal Seer
Drelnoch


These cards are unplayable. You have a lot of other on-theme cards that sacrifice some power for flavor, which is fine, but these are just a disservice to anyone playing the deck. Find some decent blue elementals to throw in there or something.


Now as far as this post goes, I'm gonna have to disagree with the cards you want me to cut. Crystal Seer maaaaaaaaybe, but since I consider EDH casual anyway, I'm willing to sacrifice even more power for flavor than I already have. Besides, those cards aren't as unplayable as you think they are. I've used Windform usefully before and Drelnoch seems pretty decent to me. AND IT'S A YETI.

That being said though, I will replace Balduvian Conjurer. Even I don't know what I was thinking. Replacing him with a blue elemental as you suggested. Hope you like Tidewalker!

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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-09 2:24 pm 

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What, no Glacial Chasm? You even have built-in bounce so you can return it to your hand and reset the cumulative upkeep counter! I always like Dreamscape Artist in a deck that can afford it, as it essentially gives you an extra land drop every turn. Also, Intruder Alarm will help keep your opponents' creatures under control if you're worried that they'll keep playing them faster than you can bounce them.

Cold Storage helps protect your creatures from removal, and can re-use the ETB triggers for those that have them.

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 Post subject: Re: Heidar Kicks Some Ice
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-12 2:41 pm 
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Etsap wrote:
What, no Glacial Chasm? You even have built-in bounce so you can return it to your hand and reset the cumulative upkeep counter! I always like Dreamscape Artist in a deck that can afford it, as it essentially gives you an extra land drop every turn. Also, Intruder Alarm will help keep your opponents' creatures under control if you're worried that they'll keep playing them faster than you can bounce them.

Cold Storage helps protect your creatures from removal, and can re-use the ETB triggers for those that have them.


I have a tremendous fear with anything that reads "Cumulative Upkeep" unless it's name happens to be Braid of Fire or Varchild's War-Riders. However, you've convinced me. Heider + Glacial Chasm = <3

Dreamscape Artist and Cold Storage sound good too. I'd been considering Cold Storage anyway. I'll be updating this list soon.

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Etsap wrote:
What, no Glacial Chasm? You even have built-in bounce so you can return it to your hand and reset the cumulative upkeep counter!

Resetting the counter costs you a land. And he can't run Crucible because (as said before) it's just downright evil with some of the other cards in the deck.


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5/2 - AVACYN RESTORED UPDATE:
-1 Chancellor of the Spires
-1 Drelnoch
-1 Ice Cage
-1 Reality Acid
-1 Tidewalker

+1 Captain of the Mists
+1 Crippling Chill
+1 Galvanic Alchemist
+1 Infinite Reflection
+1 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage

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