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 Post subject: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-22 7:54 pm 

Joined: 2009-Apr-29 11:23 am
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Original Decklist
// Lands
1 Reliquary Tower
12 Island
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Strip Mine
1 Maze of Ith
9 Forest
1 Wasteland
1 Yavimaya Hollow
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1 Flooded Grove
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Academy Ruins
1 Vesuva
1 Mosswort Bridge
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Breeding Pool

// Creatures
1 Sakiko, Mother of Summer
1 Winged Coatl
1 Sosuke, Son of Seshiro
1 Shisato, Whispering Hunter
1 Seshiro the Anointed
1 Sakura-Tribe Scout
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro
1 River Boa
1 Patagia Viper
1 Orochi Eggwatcher
1 Ophidian
1 Ohran Viper
1 Mystic Snake
1 Lorescale Coatl
1 Coiling Oracle

// Spells
1 Praetor's Council
1 Spell Crumple
1 Beast Within
1 Spin into Myth
1 Brittle Effigy
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Rhystic Study
1 Gather Specimens
1 Knowledge Exploitation
1 Bribery
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Krosan Grip
1 Erratic Portal
1 Crystal Shard
1 Vedalken Shackles
1 All Is Dust
1 Confiscate
1 Desertion
1 Mindslaver
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Skullclamp
1 Regrowth
1 Primal Command
1 Sylvan Library
1 Opportunity
1 Volition Reins
1 Steely Resolve
1 Nature's Will
1 Spitting Image
1 Cultivate
1 Kodama's Reach
1 Rite of Replication
1 Biomantic Mastery
1 Orochi Hatchery
1 Cobra Trap
1 Seed the Land
1 Snake Pit
1 Spelljack
1 Cryptic Command
1 Hinder
1 Opposition
1 Snakeform
1 Sosuke's Summons
1 Snake Basket


Current Embodyment:
St. Patrick Himself:
Edric, Spymaster of Trest

Hisssssssssss-22
1 Sakiko, Mother of Summer
1 Winged Coatl
1 Sosuke, Son of Seshiro
1 Shisato, Whispering Hunter
1 Seshiro the Anointed
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Sachi, Daughter of Seshiro
1 River Boa
1 Patagia Viper
1 Orochi Eggwatcher
1 Ohran Viper
1 Mystic Snake
1 Lorescale Coatl
1 Coiling Oracle
1 Sosuke's Summons
1 Lotus Cobra
1 Adaptive Automaton
1 Snake Pit
1 Orochi Hatchery
1 Cobra Trap
1 Chameleon Collossus
1 Shapesharer

Non-snakes-9
1 Eternal Witness
1 Trygon Predator
1 Phyrexian Ingestor
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
1 Primeval Titan
1 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Vedalken Heretic
1 Murkfiend Liege

Other-32
1 Praetor's Council
1 Sol Ring
1 Crystal Shard
1 Genesis Wave
1 Opposition
1 Cryptic Command
1 Hinder
1 Spell Crumple
1 Rite of Replication
1 Knowledge Exploitation
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Cackling Counterpart
1 Beastmaster Ascension
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Earthcraft
1 Triumph of the Hordes
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Fecundity
1 Fact or Fiction
1 Skullclamp
1 Ancestral Vision
1 Sylvan Library
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Primal Command
1 Birthing Pod
1 Mystical Tutor
1 All Is Dust
1 Beast Within
1 Spin into Myth
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Capsize

Lands-36
1 Command Tower
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Tolaria West
1 Novijen, Heart of Progress
1 Lonely Sandbar
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Reliquary Tower
5 Island
1 Mutavault
1 Wasteland
1 Maze of Ith
3 Forest
1 Treetop Village
1 Faerie Conclave
1 Yavimaya Hollow
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
1 Flooded Grove
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Academy Ruins
1 Vesuva
1 Mosswort Bridge
1 Yavimaya Coast
1 Breeding Pool
1 Okina, Temple to the Grandfathers
1 Remote Isle
1 Miren, the Moaning Well
1 Slippery Karst
1 Mystifying Maze
1 Evolving Wilds


After throwing this idea around with some friends as sort of a joke, I've decided to build it, and see how competitive I can make it. Obviously, the focus is on snakes as the only other creature in the deck, save Edrik. I'd like to keep this, though I could be swayed (As it's costing me running staples like Eternal Witness and Phyrexian Ingester) I'd also like to come up with a combo or two so that I have an alternate means of victory, when the snakes can't get the job done.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

UPDATE:
I've decided to bring this back in time for the holiday. I've made a number of changes, really too many to list. Still, I need ways of winning a pod. Thanks to Triumph of the Hordes, I can effectively end single opponents, and the deck tears through with it's draw. I'd like to try and squeeze in a few combos. I can't help but think that I'm missing something. Intruder Alarm just feels like it should be included, but I'd like some way to at least semi-abuse it.

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OLD Generals:
Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


Last edited by Wrecked on 2012-Mar-01 3:00 pm, edited 14 times in total.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-22 9:36 pm 

Joined: 2008-Sep-12 8:43 pm
Age: Drake
Location: Madison, WI
What about something like Equilibrium to take advantage of ETB and token production?

Never been a fan of Jitte in EDH. I prefer something like Sword of Light and Shadow to recur your limited number of creatures.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-23 9:19 am 

Joined: 2009-Apr-29 11:23 am
Age: Drake
Actually, I love the idea for Equilibrium in this deck, to abuse Mystic, Patagia and Oracle. I do need moar snakes, but I don't want to play just terrible cards like Anaconda. Ideas?

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OLD Generals:
Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-23 1:00 pm 

Joined: 2008-Sep-12 8:43 pm
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Location: Madison, WI
Wrecked wrote:
Actually, I love the idea for Equilibrium in this deck, to abuse Mystic, Patagia and Oracle. I do need moar snakes, but I don't want to play just terrible cards like Anaconda. Ideas?


You can always use the changeling justification to run at least Chameleon Colossus. Mire Boa kind of fits with River Boa also. Honestly, there just are not that many good snakes to pick from.

Also, consider switching Steely Resolve to Asceticism. Not being able to shard/portal your creatures back seems kind of bad.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-25 11:45 am 

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Edit: Changing first post to include changes and tags. See original post.

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OLD Generals:
Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-25 12:59 pm 

Joined: 2009-Aug-20 12:10 pm
Age: Wyvern
Oh man, I love this idea. I think it's okay to run non-Snakes but you should make sure you can hiss out the S's when you say their names. Cards like Wistful Selkie, Cold-Eyed Selkie, Ninja of the Deep Hours, and Sibilant Spirit seem like they could be fun. Not necessarily GREAT, mind you, but fun.

Shapesharer and Chameleon Colossus seem like fine inclusions. Also maybe that new anything-lord from M12?


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-28 7:24 am 

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I do want to find a way to squeeze in Chameleon, Shapesharer and the new lord from M12 in, but I'm having difficulty in picking what to cut. So far, Snakeform got the boot.

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OLD Generals:
Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-31 10:10 am 

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First big round of changes.

-1 Nature's Will
-1 Garruk Wildspeaker
-1 Snake Form
-1 Bribery
-1 Vedalken Shackles
-4 Island
-2 Forest


+1 Seedborn Muse
+1 Chameleon Collossus
+1 Shapesharer
+1 Mimic Vat
+1 Equilibrium
+1 Command Tower
+1 Reflecting Pool
+1 Tolaria West
+1 Novijen, Heart of Progress
+1 Lonely Sandbar
+1 Tranquil Thicket

Seedborn does a better job at the same thing as Nature's Will in my opinion. I also dropped Shackles to make my land base less basic and added in some changelings.

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Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

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Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2011-Jul-31 10:36 am 

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Overall I like the idea, I would suggest focusing the deck more around Shisato, then you seem to.
Whispersilk Cloak + Shisato + Nature's Will = GG in two player, and still quite decent in multiplayer.

Mire Boa seems like a no brainer, there is always someone running Urborg. (Despite being U/G I actually think it is legal in your deck, there is no Black mana symbol anywhere on the card......)

If your looking for a sneaky combo to add to the deck, spell crumble/hinder/Spin into Myth + Tunnel Vision is always good for 1 kill.

Sakura-Tribe Scout seems decent, its on theme, and good with all the card draw you seem to have.

Riptide Replicator might also be fun

Hope this helps


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-01 3:01 pm 

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UPDATE:
I've decided to bring this back in time for the holiday. I've made a number of changes, really too many to list. Still, I need ways of winning a pod. Thanks to Triumph of the Hordes, I can effectively end single opponents, and the deck tears through with it's draw. I'd like to try and squeeze in a few combos. I can't help but think that I'm missing something. Intruder Alarm just feels like it should be included, but I'd like some way to at least semi-abuse it.

For updated decklist, refer to first post! Thanks in advance!

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Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-01 3:30 pm 
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Patron of the Orochi looks like a snake and even mentions snakes in its text......... plus with all the attacking you'll be doing, it's gotta be pretty powerful.

Urborg is legal if you ever think you should run it. I personally don't. Wrexial will become Wrecksyouall if you do, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

You have so many tokens and a pretty good number of counters. I'd consider Parallel Lives and Doubling Season definetely.

Finally, Hydras are kinda magical, multiheaded snakes, and wurms look like snakes. You might be able to justify having some of them.

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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-06 6:11 pm 

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Patron was in the deck for awhile, but other than being a fatty, I couldn't really abuse him. Not enough forests or green creatures that tap for some reason or another. With Intruder Alarm, maybe I can come up with something.

Not quite sure why you even mentioned Urborg.

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Kresh, the Bloodbraided-Survival/Sneak Attack beats.
Numot, the Devastator-Resource Denial [1v1]

Current Generals
Edric, Spymaster of Trest-St. Patrick's Horde- SNAKES! Hissssssss


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 Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Horde (Edric, Spymaster of Trest, SNAKES!)
AgePosted: 2012-Mar-07 5:05 am 
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Wrecked wrote:
Patron was in the deck for awhile, but other than being a fatty, I couldn't really abuse him. Not enough forests or green creatures that tap for some reason or another. With Intruder Alarm, maybe I can come up with something.

Not quite sure why you even mentioned Urborg.

Mentioned Urborg because someone else mentioned his legality in your deck in reference to use with Mire Boa..............

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