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Ravnica Allegiance
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Author:  spacemonaut [ 2019-Jan-04 11:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Segrus wrote:
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:shock:
I know it'll probably make the player who casts it a target, but I look forward to trying this out.

Commanders like Akiri, Line-Slinger and Breya, Etherium Shaper are going to like it a lot. Multiple artifacts through each round? Twenty or so when you Reforge the Soul? Yes please! Combos horrifically with Hellkite Tyrant.

Rhystic Study tends to draw a lot of focus so I agree so will this one.

Author:  Shabbaman [ 2019-Jan-05 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Segrus wrote:
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:shock:
I know it'll probably make the player who casts it a target, but I look forward to trying this out.


So Wizards continues to support treasure tokens, and now even in white. Nice, I like treasure tokens.

Author:  NMS [ 2019-Jan-05 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

brainface wrote:
so like, assuming i'm not terrible at magic:
pestermite -> breaching hippocamp ->chakram retriever->(cast something)->great oak guardian-> um... palinchron?

There's several pestermite analogues, and just like seeker of skybreak kind of dudes that'll make it easier.

I didn't see anything at cmc 2 to start it off but still

If you have one extra untap effect and one extra mana, or wait one more turn, you can just win the game:

Scryb Ranger (if you have 1-2 forests)
-> Pestermite
-> Breaching Hippocamp
-> Chakram Retriever (and cast any spell) / Disciple of the Ring (with an instant or sorcery in the graveyard and {1}) / Tidewater Minion (and haste or wait a turn)
-> Great Oak Guardian
-> Protean Hulk and use your extra untap or wait a turn
-> Woodfall Primus
Hulk for Trophy Mage + Hidden Herbalists + Quirion Ranger (with a forest and {1}) or Mage + Bounding Krasis/Deceiver Exarch (with {3}).
Trophy Mage for Blasting Station and cast it.
Untap Vannifar and turn Trophy Mage into Ivy Lane Denizen.
Sac Primus to Station until your opponents are dead.

Author:  Viperion [ 2019-Jan-05 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Skyknight wrote:
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Ya know, Overrun has a lot to answer for. Why do all of these things always grant trample?

It's no Craterhoof, but it's another one like it. Two thumbs WAY down for this one, and I love me some green cards.

Author:  Treamayne [ 2019-Jan-06 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Sid the Chicken wrote:
Willbender wrote:
With token generators + a good spread of mana costs, you put almost every creature in your deck into play in a single turn. With Eldrazi titans (or other graveyard shufflers) it's even easier, plus you can loop CITP/leaves play effects on any creature you have that way.

Token generators seem largely irrelevant, unless you have a lot of 1-drops you want to fetch.


There are more than a few Minion Reflector/Quasiduplicate effects making token copies (with CMC), which is another option.

Author:  Inkeyes22 [ 2019-Jan-07 3:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

So far all of the CCDD cards are meh...

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Author:  spacemonaut [ 2019-Jan-07 7:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Simic continues to be a treasure trove of type lines and now names, and on an amazing card too: Galloping Lizrog.

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Also we have our first guildmage, Syndicate Guildmage, and it's a ... black ... burn card?? It's like that player loses 2 life but it can also hit planeswalkers. Interesting, I wonder if that will become more common in black.

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Inkeyes22 wrote:
So far all of the CCDD cards are meh...


What about Kaya's Wrath? :D

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Author:  Inkeyes22 [ 2019-Jan-07 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

When I said that, I meant the CCDD uncommons. The Wrath is pretty decent, I will likely play it in most if not all BW or BW/x decks

Author:  thaumaturge [ 2019-Jan-08 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

The problem with the WWBB Wrath is that Fumigate exists and is better. Sure it costs 1 more, but is still easier to cast overall, can be played in way more decks, and will likely gain you 2x or 3x more life, on average.

Also, I'd run Wrath/Day/Damnation/Austere/Merciless Eviction all before I'd even consider this, outside some highly niche cases. But, I mean, it looks cool and gets the job done so if you just need a budget sweeper and you're in Orzhov I wouldn't scoff at you for running this.

Author:  Viperion [ 2019-Jan-08 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

WOWSERS

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Author:  thaumaturge [ 2019-Jan-09 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

I think that may be the only split card in this whole block that I actually like!

Meanwhile, this:
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... looks pretty spicy in the right decks.

Author:  Viperion [ 2019-Jan-09 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

- Sac outlet
- Forced sac by opponents
- Card draw
- Net mana gain

What's not to like? I guess the once-per-turn thing is a bit of a downside but this is pretty good.

Edited to add: Someone on reddit pointed out that Thornbite Staff turns this into a machine gun, if you have enough fodder to sac

Author:  niheloim [ 2019-Jan-10 10:06 am ]
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with thornbite staff I would want to have a grave crawler or reassembling skeleton (or both) ready to go.

Author:  brainface [ 2019-Jan-11 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

haunted dead is allllmost perfect there.

Author:  Coco [ 2019-Jan-11 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ravnica Allegiance

Gravecrawler and Nether Traitor or pretty much any of the above with Desecrated Tomb.

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